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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-10-05 07:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3563 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3563 ⌋

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Re: ^ This is literally cultish behaviour.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
You said that it's the simplest solution to the issue. You didn't just say that it's something that should be done. You said that our ability to do it is a reason we should be okay with bills that restrict bathroom access.

Re: ^ This is literally cultish behaviour.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
"The simplest solution" is a relative term here. Obviously the reality of it is far from simple. It would take time, money, effort, and real honest to god interest in keeping everyone safe, not just some people.

But that's kind of why I'm bringing all this shit up in the first place? If we're going to have legislation that allow male-bodied people to use womens' washrooms and locker rooms, then we have to be more vigilant about not allowing abuse to happen and not handwaving it away when it does. No one wants to talk about that. The trans activist community is really, really bad at acknowledging the predators in their ranks and holding them accountable.

When Laverne Cox retracted her support for Synthia China Blast (a child molester), I saw people calling her (Laverne, not Synthia) a traitor and all sorts of other horrible things. This is not an isolated incident. I've seen it happen so, so many times, both IRL and online. It's fucked.

Re: ^ This is literally cultish behaviour.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see how the attitude of the trans activist community - even if we accept that your analysis of the trans activist community is correct, and I don't feel capable of judging that - is connected to the safest policy with regards to bathrooms. Those seem to be distinct topics. Your pivot to criticizing the trans activist communities' attitude towards abuse seems really unrelated to the bathroom question.

I get the sense that you have some really serious, sincere issues with the trans activist community. And, you know, I'm not trying to dismiss that. But I think reacting to that by rejecting anything to do with trans people is maybe not a proportionate or reasonable reaction? Just thinking out loud here really