[ SECRET POST #3566 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3566 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yes it was sexual assault. That is cut and dried. However, whether you feel violated by it or not is up to you. Some people can wave it off (and believe it or not there are a few -very few- women who can even do this with violent penetrative rape) and some people feel utterly violated by it, and people can fall into a spectrum anywhere along the line. That is their 100% right to feel violated or not, depending on their own emotions. If you didn't feel violated, then fine for you.

It is obvious that in the Harry Potter canon that Snape felt at least some degree of violation from it. And that is valid too. What James did was sexual assault though. That he didn't intend for it to seem like a violation beyond it being a very nasty prank to distract his friend is neither here nor there because it is the victim that gets to define how violating it was.

[(Anonymous)]

I certainly did not feel and would never define it as sexual assault, given the context and experience. I think there are times when it can be sexual assault but I don't think saying it always is makes any sense whatsoever. To be perfectly honest, if we're defining pantsing someone as cut-and-dried unquestionable sexual assault, I'm not sure how useful the term "sexual assault" is, or whether it deserves the seriousness that we impute to it.

So I don't think we even reach the question of the validity of Snape's reaction. But I do want to say, with regards to that, that bullying is also negative and causes negative reactions. It's just different from sexual assault.

[(Anonymous)]

That is great for you personally, you can define your reaction however you like, but it is a form of sexual assault. You don't get to minimize how others feel because you didn't feel (or perhaps, don't want to feel like you were) sexually assaulted.

[(Anonymous)]

Again, I think there are contexts where it is sexual assault. I don't think it's minimizing how others feel if I say that, in the context in which it happened when I was pantsed, it wasn't sexual assault. Because it's context-dependent.

[(Anonymous)]

No it isn't. Look, I get that you don't want to feel like you were assaulted and that it might open up some uncomfortable feelings for you, but you were. I'm sorry that this is getting to you though.

[(Anonymous)]

I have doubts as to whether you are replying to yourself

[(Anonymous)]

As the person they're arguing with, i can tell you for sure they're not

Which in many ways makes it weirder

[(Anonymous)]

That's really not any part of my motivation here. And I'm still kind of at a loss as to the explanation of your whole position.