[ SECRET POST #3570 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3570 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/ev2fSKs.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Saaame.

[kaijinscendre]

Because sometimes you just want to see some kinky things done to one particular body by a different particular body.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. And guess what OP? If that's not what floats your boat, it's cool. No one's making you read it.

[(Anonymous)]

But if someone supposedly loves a character so much, yet wants them to be totally OOC for the sake of porn, at least they could admit they dgaf about the actual character and only about the porn. Some of the people who do this genuinely think they are staying in character and get pissy if you point out that they kiiiinda aren't. It's especially baffling when it's a character that doesn't have any visual representation, because then all you have is the name, and at that point you may as well just be honest about your OC that you're writing about.

[(Anonymous)]

Are we talking genuinely OOC though? Because I see a lot of people just saying, "I could never see character engaging in X kink."

[sparrow_lately]

I feel this, especially as for a lot of the time, for me, kinks match themselves to characters pretty easily. Characters who seem dom(me)-y, subby, kinky, etc., so way OOC stuff weirds me out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oooooooooh yeah...I feel ya.

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly, I want to slap doujinshi artists in Goku/Vegeta yaoi when they make Vegeta the bottom. Vegeta tops, period, unless he's forced to bottom without consent.

[feotakahari]

I think it's often meant to be funny, e.g. a super-shy character as a dominatrix.

[(Anonymous)]

Lmao yeah, I see this all time with mainly slash writers who always make the female character super dominant on the few occasions that they do write het because "stereotypical het dynamics" bother them or whatever. Like, you don't have to make the character a dominatrix in order to make a het relationship not stereotypical lol.

[kallanda_lee]

Honestly, some of us just find that dynamic hot.

[(Anonymous)]

That's fine, and I think it's hot on occasion too, but I think it's boring when people pigeonhole the token female character into a dominatrix role every fucking time in fanfic.

Also, it gets to a point where some people just make the character OOC and unrecognizable because of the kink (like the OP said). I'd be more cool with these female dom fics if maybe she was tentative/shy about it at first if she's a shy/tentative person in canon, but, nope...no development, and she also becomes super outgoing outside the bedroom too.

[kallanda_lee]

If it's OOC, I'm with you - but, to make the other case, you're sort of winging it for characterization anyway once you go into kink territory.

[feotakahari]

This reminds me of the argument that you shouldn't expect slash to be in-character because it's already out of character for men from TV shows to have sex with men instead of women.

[kallanda_lee]

Well, yes and no.

Obviously if they have a full personality switch, it's shittily written.

But, if it has not been portrayed in canon , you really can't quite know how a person will be in bed, in a relationship with someone who he's not involved with in canon, or yes, in a kinky situation.

As someone else said, some wallflowers can be beasts in bed and vice versa.

So, as an author, somewhere you're going to make the call of "I'm going to have them react like this."

You can obviously make assumptions based on characterization in canon (like, a funny/snarky character might be snarky in bed, too) but, it's not guarantee, because people can be quite different in a sexual setting than in, say, their work situation.

[(Anonymous)]

You must be hanging out in verrrrry different corners of the internet than I. I keep running into people who have written the most astoundingly OOC stuff while insisting that it's a) totally serious and b) actually super in character ugaiz.

[(Anonymous)]

i mean, on one hand, lots of fic is OOC and it's annoying

but on the other hand, no one watching a TV show about my life would EVER imagine that I have any of the dozen hardcore kinks that I have

kink and personality are not really correlated in clear ways, and I feel super >_> about the idea that someone 'OBVIOUSLY' would never ever do or want or act a certain thing/way in bed.

also 'why don't they just pic characters who -' STOP, because fandom is a community and they're emotionally and/or asthetically attracted to the characters and they're invested in this particular property, and also, beginning writers are often pretty bad at characterization??? just because they have a kink doesn't mean they're getting it wrong consciously or on purpose. they think 'this character is hot to me, this thing is what's hot, QED character doing thing makes perfect sense.'

meanwhile good writers can make you believe some kinks are IC even if you never considered that for the character before (and if they're really good, even if it's not YOUR kink)

let the beginners be and move on

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure what you mean by matching kinks to personality. I've known some pretty vanilla wild outgoing people, and some absolutely filthy wallflowers, and vice versa.

But you can't tell me General Hux doesn't get way too into tentacle porn, the weirder the better. He has all 15 volumes of Hott Mando Sluts do the Sarlacc

[(Anonymous)]

Canon. Totally canon.

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking this though. It doesn't even have to be something particularly kinky even.

[(Anonymous)]

It only bugs me when the author/artist insists that their kink of choice is totally canon so they don't have to tag for it. Like, it's cool that you think Thorin Oakenshield is super into sounding, but it's not the kind of thing that most readers just want to stumble into, okay?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

And really, why WOULDN'T you tag for it? It would help all the sounding fans who would have passed it by to find it.

[(Anonymous)]

If your kink isn't compatible with a character's actual personality, why completely remove everything about them that makes them THEM in order to shoehorn it?

I think fanon plays a big part in the phenomenon you're talking about. If a person has a preference for a character to be a certain way, they tend to seek out fics that depict the character that way. And the more of such fics they read, the more that particular slant on the character comes to feel "right" to them. And slowly they become able to read characterizations that lean further and further in that particular direction, because it's become so normalized in their mind. For that person, the fanon has essentially overtaken the canon, to a degree. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, as long as the person isn't going around arguing that their fanon preferences are true and right while other people's are wrong.

(BBC's Sherlock is like this for me. I enjoy a fairly sub-ish, vulnerable Sherlock characterization. In the beginning I could only read fics that took a very light touch in writing him that way. But over time I've come to accept more and more emphasis on a vulnerable, sub-ish Sherlock characterization. Five years on, he can be pretty damn smol before I stop recognizing him as Sherlock. However, I am aware that someone who favors a coldly dom-ish Sherlock will find "my" Sherlock jarringly OOC.)


OTOH, sometimes I'll read a fic where the characterization isn't skewed in a particular direction so much as it's just missing entirely. That's when I tend to just assume the writer strongly identifies with a particular character and is using that character as a self-insert. And there's nothing wrong with that either, though I personally choose to back button on those fics.

[(Anonymous)]

People notice different things and interpret things differently. There can be many right answers, besides yours.