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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-04-17 04:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #468 ]


⌈ Secret Post #468 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 75 secrets from Secret Submission Post #067.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - people are idiots (at least you're not alone) ], [ 1 - we've seen 500 times ], [ 1 - not posted for wank ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
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[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Okay. Bullet points time, because I can't even begin to address this with paragraphs! (Not that I'm sure everyone else hasn't already, as I smell a troll, but I haven't really ranted on FFVII here lately, so it must be that time again)


  • KH VERSIONS ARE AU. Yeah, really. Original games Squall and Cloud aren't as mopey as often. Sephiroth actually has more than three lines. They get a lot more screentime, and thus actually have DEVELOPMENT and complexity.

    And can you guess who else ALSO gets way more complexity, development, and interesting traits to them in their original game? Yeah. Aerith. She's not a mary sue. Play the damn game before you judge, plz.

    FF characters in KH are a series of cameos, nothing more. They're there for the previous fans to enjoy, not for you to judge based on.


  • Cloud/Aerith isn't canon. Yeah, I know. Crazy, right? A videogame where the hero/heroine ship isn't canon? Well, yeah. Habeeb it.

    Neither is Cloud/Tifa, while we're on the matter. Or Cloud/Yuffie, Sephiroth/Cloud, Cloud/Red, or Ifalna/Cloud (oh man, does someone ship that? Please tell me someone ships that). Pretty cool, huh? It was left ambiguous on purpose. You can ship whatever you damn well please with Cloud. I prefer Mukki/Cloud, but that's another story entirely. theirloveissohottubdubcon

    So yeah. Shipwars aside, you don't have to ship it. Norly.


  • She dies like halfway through. IT'S LIKE HALFWAY THROUGH THE FUCKING GAME. SUCK IT UP. She's actually really great in your party. The first time I played the game, I was 12, and a fanbrat from hell. I thought she was stupid and frilly, and I was still upset to lose her from my party. But you can always just be petty and not use her. This is FF, after all, you can always be petty and refuse to use a character as long as they're not the main one. I think I killed Wakka whenever I had to use him in FFX, just because he irrationally annoyed me.


  • You and I have vastly different ideas of mary sues.

    I don't know what bodily crevace the idea that Aerith is a mary sue came from, but you might want to jam it back in there before you approach the fandom. You want a mary sue white mage, there's plenty of them in RPGs. Aerith? Not really one of them.

    Sure, if you approach the game with all the maturity of a 12 year old fanbrat, completely disregard the fact that she's fucking amazing, and view the game with the bias of "she's getting in the way of my hot sephywephykins/cloudybaby buttsex omg unf unf" then uh... yeah. I guess she can come off as a mary sue. I know I thought so. But as you might have guessed, I deserved to have been killed before I was allowed internet access at that time. What's your excuse?

[identity profile] mythos.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're my favourite person... ever.

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
BEST SHIP EVER I am so not kidding (http://www.videogamerecaps.com/images/ff7-part3-8.jpg)

[identity profile] mythos.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Cloud is so polite when being molested.

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[identity profile] hezul.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Kai, I love you. Let me run to the store and pick up some BBQ sauce for the babies I'm about to offer you.

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[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Om nom nom delicious babies!

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[identity profile] hezul.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
also I think we need to start an INTERNET REVOLUTION of Ifalna/Cloud shipping.

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[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
...yes. Yes we do.

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(Anonymous) 2008-04-17 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This post is so amazing and full of win. You said everything I wanted to say and more. WORD.

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[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
\o/ I was afraid people would think I was just irrationally ranting (again?).

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi there, you're awesome.

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[identity profile] shinai.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
*throws confetti*

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[identity profile] irrisia.livejournal.com 2008-04-17 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, it's more like 2/5ths of the way through the game. And she's not even in all the first 2/5ths of the game anyway, so really, Aerith-time, including the cutscenes AFTER disc one, is about 1/4 of the game.

Which makes me very sad, really. I kinda want to see the script for the early versions without Aerith death.

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[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I somehow always manage to bork up the amount of time an RPG should take by completely ignoring grinding and non-plot-oriented side quests, so my accounting of time in the things is always off. For my game, she usually died just a little before halfway through, but that's probably to be expected since I don't think I actually even know what most of FFVII's (non-flashback-inducing) endgame content is.

I love what her death does in terms of defying stereotypes and moving the plot. I hate losing one of the most useful party members and a character who is capable of decking the hero if he ruins her date. It leaves me so divided. =(

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[identity profile] amentemorte.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Awesome!

Seriously, I can definitely understand what you said and I felt the same way when I read that secret.