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⌈ Secret Post #3573 ⌋

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[kallanda_lee]

My point is sort of that...they can't really know? They sort of assume it's to limit he number of of fans?

The only places I've seen charge for autographs are cons, so I've sort of assumed the question was about that.

In which case: firstly, the celeb operates within the rules of that con, and they don't have that much say in that.

Secondly, you don't really know if they need the money or not.

[liz_marcs]

I agree with this, but I'd take it a step further

It seems to me that most actors that get attached to a genre show/movie series will find themselves SOL once their show/movie franchise ends. I mean, for every actor that manages to break out of the genre mold and become a regular working actor after that point, there are probably 40 that don't.

I mean, think about this. For every Bruce Campbell who manages to consistently find work both in and out of genre media, there's 20 Claudia Christians (B5) and 20 Nicholas Brendons (Buffy) where their one genre show is pretty much the high-point of their careers and at best they might score the occasional guest star spot or role in a no-budget film.

It's kind of hard to see, since we've got an embarrassment of riches when it comes to genre shows, but how many of the current stars do you see getting regular work once their show ends? Based on the acting I've seen, I'd argue that most of them are going to sink out of sight.

So, in a sense, I can't entirely blame genre actors (even when they're earning scratch from working TV on the regular) for going after the money while they're still hot and people are willing to pony up the cash. Just because they don't need it *today* doesn't mean that they won't be living on it tomorrow (assuming they're banking it/investing it rather than just spending it).

[(Anonymous)]

Nathan Fillion said in an interview with SFX magazine back in 2002 (before the show flopped) that he only was doing Firefly so that he'd have con appearances to fall back on if he got no other work.

[liz_marcs]

I'm...actually not surprised, especially given how tight he hangs on to the Whedon connections even now.

Granted, Fillion managed to get another long-running show, but the messy behind-the-scenes crap with Castle makes me wonder if he's doomed to sink out of sight and start living off the con circuit where he can get uncritical love from fans.

[(Anonymous)]

I know Nicholas Brendon did a 21 episode stint on Criminal Minds so he's not stuck to one genre

[liz_marcs]

Nicholas Brendon was a bad example, but not because of Criminal Minds. His addiction/criminal issues I think have really hindered his career (and rightfully so at least when it comes to his criminal issues).

[(Anonymous)]

Nicholas Brendon isn't the best example since his career is far more limited by jail time and addiction issues than genre, I think.

Aside from that, I do agree with your point!

[liz_marcs]

Someone had responded when I realized that Nicholas Brendon probably wasn't the best example I could've come up with, so I couldn't go back and edit. Oooop @ me.

But thanks for seeing my point anyway. ^_^

I know it's not the world's most popular opinion, but there are some interesting documentaries out there about actors who are more "working actors" that manage to make a living by cobbling together roles here and there. It's decidedly unglamorous and hard work. Not to mention there's a lot of downtime where they're NOT working and have to live off of residuals or other income streams while they search for the next job.

I have to admit that watching them made me a bit more understanding on why actors might do something that might seem "greedy" to the rest of us, like doing commercial work, sponsoring products, or charging people for their autograph.

[(Anonymous)]

That's quite true. I think that a lot of people overestimate how much actors make, or only think about the biggest stars when considering these issues. There are a lot of actors that struggle to make ends meet.

There are also a lot of young actors who make mistakes in choosing management (or their parents do) and wind up struggling even though they'd have a good role or two. So it's definitely not fair to just assume that anyone in the business is rich enough not to need the funds.

[liz_marcs]

Not to mention that if you're in the entertainment business, there's a lot of "hidden" expenses that performers have to pay that your average cubicle worker does not.

All of the examples I know about are from the music business, but I imagine that actors with any kind of profile have something similar:

TLC talks about how they went broke here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92q9pYnaYo

Courtney Love back in 2000 wrote an interesting breakdown on how bands can earn millions and find out that they basically would have been better off getting minimum wage jobs: http://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/

For actors, I highly recommend these two documentaries: "That Guy...Who Was In that Thing" and "That Gal...Who Was in that Thing." The funny thing is, both documentaries include actors who are relatively well known, like Timothy Oumundson,Xander Berkley, Paget Brewster, and Catherine Hicks.

While they don't talk in detail about finances for actors, they do talk about how they have to be part-time accountants and part-time hustlers in order to be full-time actors. It's a fascinating look at how working actors have to make sure that they're not only paying the mortgage and the bills, but they also have to set aside funds to see them through dry spells. And a percentage of these actors have landed actual television series where they were regulars at some point in their careers.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember TLC going into the bankruptcy thing on "Behind the Music". Truly nuts. And that wasn't even counting the fact that one of the group members had hospital visits for her sickle cell anemia that would've added to the costs, and then of course the court costs for Left Eye when she burned her boyfriend's house up.

I really feel for the women in TLC, they've had so much shit and tragedy happen to them throughout their lives.