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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-10-22 03:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #3580 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3580 ⌋

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Re: John Carter of Mars

[personal profile] thelesbianfuturist 2016-10-22 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they're talking about how Mr Fillion boasted and laughed about having a famous slaver as an ancestor.
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Re: John Carter of Mars

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-10-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I had not heard about that. Assumed they were talking about Firefly. That's really gross. Why would you be proud of that?

Re: John Carter of Mars

[personal profile] thelesbianfuturist 2016-10-22 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do people wear the confederate flag proudly?

Some bullshit about "Southern Pride" or some such.
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Re: John Carter of Mars

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-10-22 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. I just don't get it. My dad is from Alabama and a huge chunk of his family is like that. I hate spending time there. It is awful and I'm embarrassed to be seen out with them because they aren't shy about saying racist things very loudly.

Re: John Carter of Mars

[personal profile] thelesbianfuturist 2016-10-23 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get any of it, Like, do they believe they were actually there? Like they didn't fight and die for anything, but they look at these old racist fighting and dieing and the feel proud like it's something they achieved.

I don't understand any of it. It's not their flag. It's the dead flag of old dead guys that don't deserve to be honored.

Re: John Carter of Mars

(Anonymous) 2016-10-23 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I talked about it a little below (sorry to reply to this thread so many times but all this stuff is hugely fascinating to me) but:

basically, there was an extreme, concerted effort after the Civil War to lionize the Confederacy as heroes, and to hide the fact that it was fought in order to preserve slavery. Talking about it as "The War Of Northern Aggression" and stuff like that. It's really, really interesting, actually, in addition to being a profound historical shame for the US.

Re: John Carter of Mars

(Anonymous) 2016-10-23 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Probably because what actually happened was that he offered it as a point of interest in an interview, because the historical figure in question had the exact same name as a bounty hunter on the show. It wasn't a boast, it was a "and here is this weird coincidence".