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⌈ Secret Post #3586 ⌋

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[Katya Zamolodchikova/Rupaul's Drag Race ]

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09. [SPOILERS for Stasis]

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10. [WARNING for discussion of underage (fictional) porn]

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What would it be?

Very loosely inspired by #10 as I have just gotten weary of the moral outrage, so I'd rather have fun with it. You have to pick one trope that's no longer allowed to be used in fanfic or art, what gets the axe and why? A/b/o? Mpreg? Coffee shop AUs? Referring to characters by eyecolor? Readerfic?

Boob armor.

Heavyhanded inserts of the author or artist's political stances.

If they are trying to convince us to agree with them, then convince us to agree with them without having Loki explain what a pansexual is or Captain America tell us to vote Democrat.

I HATE that. It makes me backbutton immediately. Or just avoid it if it is in the tags.

AGREED oh I'm having flashbacks of a fic one time that made an OC just to come in and explain to one of the main characters how he didn't have to worry about being gay! He was demisexual instead which is totally different and he and the other guy can have pure emotional not-gay sex because he's not gay he's demisexual.

I've been lucky enough to avoid this most of the time until recently. I don't know why my luck suddenly wore off and now I'm running into characters going into random explanations of asexuality and dissertations on their stance on abortion.

There are just more of it now so the odds are against you. Moral righteousness is in.

Yup. Soapbox fic is annoying.

"Whiplash" relationships too. As in "I hate your guts/don't ever want to see you!" and the very next second it's "oh I love you so much. Let's get married!"

woobie-fic. Oh god, woobie-fic, it needs to die.

Woobie fic has its place, even if it's not my favorite, but I kind of get what you mean because there was this one author in one of my fandoms who specialized in woobie fic and half the time I liked her stuff but she must've had a thing for--I dunno, it wasn't infantilization exactly, but like, innocence/ignorance of sexual stuff and life stuff in general, because she wrote the more experienced/older half of my favorite pairing as almost helpless and creepily childlike sometimes, and I'm sitting here with part of me going "ew stop" and part of me just confused like "he's a canonical puppetmaster/complete bastard who raised his kid, had lovers, made a living, and lived for many years on his lonesome, wtf?" He's not a wide eyed innocent almost virgin who can't jack himself off or feed or clothe himself without help, his life did not begin when he met the other half of my OTP.

...can you tell me who this character is? I want to fully comprehend the extent of this fuckup.

I dunno. I mostly live and let live these days. It doesn't affect me any so long as it's clearly marked so that I can avoid it.

I guess it would be defining characters' personalities by their sex roles, because people never warn for that shit they just take it as a given.

+1 on this.

If you happen to like fics where the guy taking it up the butt is uncharacteristically weepy and needy and the guy giving it to him is uncharacteristically dominating in bed that's fine. But will you please TAG for it so I can just scroll past it in search of a fic where the characters are actually acting like themselves instead of being possessed by Yaoi characters?

We need to give this trope a neutral, non-condescending name (so that people will actually use it) that people can use to tag their fics. It would be a bonus for people like us and for people who like that kind of thing to sort and filter by.

I'm drawing a blank though.

PRESENT TENSE

NEVER TAKE THAT BACK

It suits some stories, and it's all in the skill of the writer.

I think things that excuse villains actions is what I want to get rid of. If you like villains, embrace it. This is also true for published works like Wicked. Sympathetic backstories are one thing. But when you make it out as if they never actually did the bad things or as if the bad things are totally okay, then I have a problem.

+1000

I love a good villain, and I love a good villain redemption story. But I steer clear of this in fandom because the vast majority of the time, the redemption isn't really redemption; it's making excuses for the villain's bad deeds. And that's when I have to get off the train, especially when other characters are blamed for the villain's bad actions.

Having characters who canonically drink or smoke go through a big show of quitting. It's not that hard to just have them not drink/smoke in your fix if it makes you that uncomfortable. Axe the PSA.

First person 😞

Books like Lolita and To Kill a Mockingbird wouldn't work without first person... and neither would some of my favorite short fics.

It can work in original fic because there is no pre-existing character voice to get wrong, but it fails in fanfic because most fanauthors are really bad at getting the character voice right. It always seems to end up being an angsty teen genius, except where we actually have an angsty teen genius and then it becomes a either an abused or super-happy teen genuis ditz instead.

Well, yeah, but there are good fanwriters out there. When it comes to fanfic, first person probably works best with oneshots... especially the short ones that run heavily off of a single concept, like a mystery or a horror. I have read longer stories in first person too, they're just quite rare.

FIRST PERSON

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