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⌈ Secret Post #3597 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Happy things

[philstar22]

I'm...not sure how I feel about that. I don't think killing them is the right solution. I think catching and spaying/neutering then releasing is better because they get to live out their lives, but the population decreases as no new babies are born.

Re: Happy things

[herpymcderp]

There's quite a bit of research that shows TNR programs don't actually decrease the local population, since owners who let their cats out just wind up having them mating with strays before anything can be done about it.

It sounds harsh, but... those efforts aren't working. I love cats, but with so many species in dire straits or outright peril (56% total population decline world wide) I don't really think half measures are the answer any more.

Re: Happy things

[philstar22]

I just am uncomfortable with killing cats who can't help that they are predators. That is their nature. What makes birds more worthy of survival than cats, and do we have the right to make that choice when it is our fault the cats are feral?

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

The birds are supposed to be there, the cats fucking well aren't.

Re: Happy things

[herpymcderp]

Numbers make birds more worthy. The black and white statistics state that cat populations are not in danger of becoming critical. Bird populations are. Biodiversity is not at risk if cats are killed- quite the opposite, actually.

Biodiversity is what makes Earth Earth. There are bird species that are pollinators. We might well rely on them if we wind up killing off many of our honey bee populations (as has been predicted for the past several decades).

It's not a question of individual burden, it's a question of ecological imperative.

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

Plus, we've tried the nice way for a good few decades now. People know that their cats are a menace if left free to roam but people keep on buying cats and letting them roam. If you cannot keep a cat indoors then you cannot keep a cat, it is that simple. This is the point where we say it is too late to be nice and move it onto the next level.

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds a bit like a "Prime Directive-y" dodge. NAYRT, but I wouldn't say it's that either is more worthy; I'd say that it's that one group is in much greater peril, hence the efforts at preservation. I'd hate to see more birds joining the ranks of the Dodo and the Passenger Pigeon, etc.

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

Killing them is the only way. Otherwise you still have the endangered wildlife death count racking up until kitty fails to clear the pavement fast enough ahead of the hoon squad.

Re: Happy things

[philstar22]

I just don't think that helping one animal by killing another is the right solution. Cats are predators. That is what they are/ It isn't their fault that people have abandoned them and they've become feral. They shouldn't be punished for that.

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't the wildlife's fault either. It is the cat owner's fault, but it still needs to be done even if it isn't nice.

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

Cats are also an invasive species, which makes the "it's in their nature" argument not fly. They aren't supposed to be there. Their very presence in the areas where they do the most ecological damage is not natural. Culling feral populations is restoring a natural balance that the presence of an unchecked predatory species is destroying.

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

and when all the cats are dead who will save you from the disease-carrying rodents?

Re: Happy things

[(Anonymous)]

Terriers. Just as efficient, easier to train.

NZ are also culling rodentia too though. And mustelids.