[ SECRET POST #474 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #474 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Comments

24 OP Cont'd

[(Anonymous)]

The only characters I really liked were Alice Cullen and perhaps Jacob Black. Alice because she was spunky and genuinely interesting. Unfortunately the way she's been written makes her slightly mary sue-ish as well, but she seems to have proper insecurities down there somewhere. She has more of a voice than Bella or Edward, and she has her own agenda. Jacob? He's a bit of a teen and he's awkward in a far more human way. Unfortunately, as far as I can see, he falls for Bella as well and faces similar annoying problems, except he's far less sexy because he grows fur instead of dainty fangs. BAWW, fangirls weep. *shrugs*

Plot-wise, it's nothing special. It's riddled with little holes that are hidden with lots and lots of sparkles. The whole world of vampires and werewolves existing in such a way is unrealistic. I can't see how this sort of thing can be kept under wraps, even with legends flying around. The development of Bella and Edward's relationship is grating, and as I touched on before the two of them are just bland characters for people to project things on. I don't think they're even intentionally written that way, because Meyer keeps saying things like they're "her children" and such. Some of the characters that I read in Darren Shan seem to have more personality at times. The only real beef I have to pick with Darren Shan is the plot and writing style. What kept me reading were the characters.

Which brings me to how the writing style in Twilight isn't exactly good either. While it's miles better than Darren Shan and doesn't grate as much, it doesn't exactly have any polish to it. There's overuse of dramatic extended metaphor (oh, I'm a planet off course in a solar system drifting with stars etc. etc.) and a lot of description of feelings that don't have any basis. Overuse of ellipsis and hyphens, and stupidly dramatic lines. (honestly, characters, please Dx )...

It's nearly 2 in the morning and i think I've ranted enough... ;; This is only my opinion of course... Feel free to argue with me. :'D

Sorry for staying anon. Dx;; I'd reveal who I am, but I don't think my friend would appreciate it because her identity might be obvious when I do...

and also i'm so sorry for the LENGTH.. but yes. um. this is why.

Re: 24 OP Cont'd

[star-in-my-soup.livejournal.com]

Sorry for jumping in here, but I just wanted to thank you for this comment. :)

I read Twilight and enjoyed it. (I don't know that you could call me a Twilight fangirl or anything, but it was an entertaining read.) And I absolutely agree that it's not the best thing ever written. But the way that people just go around saying that it sucks without giving any actual justification for it has been starting to annoy me. You made some valid points here, and I really appreciate it. It's nice to hear an articulate argument that goes beyond the blanket "it's all purple prose and Mary Sues!" statement.

Anyway, thanks again for the thoughtful reply, and I hope your friend has good luck with her story. If she gets published and would like another reader, leave me an anon comment on my journal anytime with the book title. I tend to walk the beaten path with my book choices, but I love to support new writers when I can. :)

Re: 24 OP Cont'd

[jyusan.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the answer! I'm really glad you took your time to tell your opinion.

I don't think Twilight is perfet either, not at all (especially after Eclipse, which messed soooo many things up). It's very annoying, even for me when 'Twihards' say it's better than everything, so I can imagine how someone, who doesn't even like it can be annoyed by that. But I got really attached to this book. :)

I agree with you about how Bella is someone anyone could easily relate to - I lived through everything in the book just like her thanks to this, I guess. But I can't really agree about her being a Mary Sue. Truth be told, I had many doubts when I started the books, and I started to like it when I realized how real Bella is. I think she is a very honest character, true to herself and her problems. And oh yes, she has many flaws, but all those feel natural. Yes, that was the first thing that came to my mind. Bella may be an ordinary girl, but she is natural, and I think this is quite rare.

As for Edward - he is idolized by both the fans and Bella, but what makes him interesting for is how, after 108 years, he still has things he couldn't grow out of and has yet to learn.

The beginning of their relationship is quite troublesome, too, I agree. At first, I was really-really surprised and annoyed, "why the hell is Edward all over Bella?" But I think her personality played a big role in him falling in love with her (and If you think she doesn't have a personality I can see that you couldn't see where it came from).

I just love how all the... characters are kinda true, honest and I think they are interesting. As for plot, there really isn't any, it's based on emotional development, which in New Moon is especially beautiful in my opinion. I agree about the "grammar", too, though it mostly didn't annoy me, just sometimes.

I don't think Twilight is a masterpiece or anything like that, but I do believe it's an outstanding piece, a quite honest and raw love story. I love it because it has moved me, emotionally, several times.

But I respect your opinion, and I'm really grateful you explained it! I grow so attached to these books I can't really look at it as an outsider anymore.

Don't worry about staying anonymous, that's completely fine :)