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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-11-14 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3603 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3603 ⌋

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philstar22: (Default)

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-11-15 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
So much agreed to the second one. In a movie, you can't have too many scenes just about the villains, especially multi-hero movies or origin stories that need to get us to understand the heroes and root for them. Marvel concentrates on making their heroes complex while giving us just enough to understand the villain's motivations. I think it make sense that they do it that way.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-11-15 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't see another way unless they make the villain the main character.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-16 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
But for instance, the first Thor movie has a villain with lots of scenes and even character development and most people still probably rooted for Thor and his pals and not Loki, didn't they? I personally rooted for Loki because he was more sympathetic and likable than Thor and I always root for my favorite characters no matter how evil and wrong they are (that's what fiction is for, isn't it), but I'm sure most people didn't.

Marvel already has a movie with a complex and interesting villain, it can be done. They just choose to stick to generic one dimensional "I want power" villains because it's safer.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-11-16 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I think the difference with Loki and the other villains is that Loki, as Thor's brother, is tied to his story. So they could weave them both together and have villain scenes while still keeping the focus on the hero. I didn't find Loki sympathetic at all personally, but I do think that the reason they were able to do it differently was because Loki lived in Asgard and was tied to Thor in a way the other villains weren't tied to their hero.