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[Emmerdale, Robert/Aaron]

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[Sia, "The Greatest"]

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[Pokémon Generations]

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[Hark! A Vagrant, Wuthering Heights]

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(Jeremy Irons)

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[It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia]

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[Criminal Minds, S10E02 "Burn"]

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Sometimes I wonder if someone, 100% up front about it, set up a version of the Matrix right now, how many people would willingly sign up for it? Like, here is the option to live out your days in a fully immersive virtual reality where the world has comparatively not gone to shit, completely for free, with a guarantee of no real world worries following you because you will promptly forget them as soon as you plug in. Here is the real world. Your choice.

I mean, I'm not sure they'd get global domination out of it, but it'd be an interesting experiment.

I'm not saying I would genuinely choose it. But I do think like... There tends to be this automatic assertion that choosing the simulation would be Wrong, and choosing reality would be Right. And it feels like it's an unexamined assumption that isn't necessarily correct.

Why are people so sure that people would choose to stay outside the simulation? Why are they so sure it's correct to do so?

That viewpoint is basically a manifestation of a belief that engaging with "reality" is more mature and adult than "escapism." In other words, you're immature if you choose the simulation because you're running away from your real-world responsibilities.

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But that also presumes everyone is a responsible mature adult which is wrong. Plenty of people would do an overall good to everyone else by plugging into their own personal utopia free of groups of people and all that newfangled science they hate and ceasing to interact with everyone else forever.

Of course it's wrong. I'm just saying that's where the viewpoint comes from. There's a political aspect too: that line of thinking (a rejection of "escapism" as a means of managing one's mental health, because misery builds character) is very common with a certain kind of conservative.

I think there's a difference between enjoying some escapist hobbies and permanently checking out and never interacting with the real world again. I'm not saying the latter is an irredeemable sin, but I do see a difference there.

That's just it. Some people don't see the difference. Except when they do it.

My dad was one of these people. He was constantly getting on my case for reading fiction.

Yeah. But I think a lot of the root of that belief comes from the fact that, in the world we live in, escapism can only ever be temporary - IE, by the basic nature of human existence, you always have to come back to reality at some point.

But it seems to me that a world like the one that OP's talking about, where you have a perfect and continuous simulation, means that's no longer true.

So are people just sort of assuming the same logic holds in both cases, or what

I think at its core it's just a resentment of people looking for ways to alleviate their misery.

More likely it's because so many people's way of alleviating their misery is to offload it on somebody else.

I wouldn't do it, but I would upload my consciousness when my body was dying/about to die, if that was an option. I figure a computer system that could perfectly simulate reality could also run a "me program," so to speak.

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