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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-11-25 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3614 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3614 ⌋

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03. [SPOILERS for Pokemon Sun and Moon]



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07. [SPOILERS for Peaky Blinders and The Night Manager]



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[personal profile] fscom 2016-11-25 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
07. [SPOILERS for Peaky Blinders and The Night Manager]
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-11-26 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
The love interest for female characters in Neverwinter Nights infiltrated the bad guys, fell in love with one of them, and killed her anyway because he valued his honor and (self)righteousness more than her life. He plays it off as a heartbreaking tragedy, and he only becomes your love interest if you play along. I chose to react with bewilderment, because there was no option to call him a sick fucker who should burn in Hell.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-26 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
if she was a bad guy, what's the big deal?
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-11-26 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Because he had the unmitigated gall to say he loved her. He took a life he claimed to value, just because his ideals demanded it, and I believe more than anything else that no ideal can ever, in and of itself, be worth more than a life. Sacrificing one life to save others is one thing, but ideals are less than worthless if they make the world an emptier place.

Then again, my thoughts on the value of so-called "evil" lives seldom overlap with Dungeons and Dragons morality, so I guess this is par for the course.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-26 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen either of those shows, but for the trope itself, for me it depends on how it's done. I usually have problems with sex-based loyalty turns, mostly just because they're hard for me to empathise with, but love ... still depends on how it's done, but I can see it as an extension/exaggeration of the risk spies take of 'becoming the mask' or empathising too much with those they're infiltrating. Which is interesting to me. I will grant that it's usually played way more cheaply than that, though.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-26 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed The Night Manager, but that was my least favorite aspect of the whole thing, OP.
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[personal profile] alexi_lupin 2016-11-26 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Same, although I do like Elizabeth Debicki so I liked seeing her, I just wish she had a different storyline.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2016-11-26 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I initially thought that was the one weak point with Peaky Blinders, but if you keep watching, it gets better.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-26 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
But in Night Manager, he didn't fall in love? The lust was there, sure, on both sides, but they confided/aided/screwed each other, and in the end went their separate ways.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-26 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
In regards to Peaky Blinders, it was the obvious trope, but damn OP are you missing out, imho.

+1

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(Anonymous) 2016-11-27 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
With The Night Manager in particular, I love Tom Hiddleston and tried to get into it, but it was too "James Bond" for me, in the way it treated its female characters (admittedly I didn't get past episode three). He has sex with a woman and then she is killed, he goes to hide out and then has sex with another woman who's helping him. Then I heard about the sex scene with Elizabeth Debneki, which everyone was saying was 'hot' because of 'Hiddlesbum' but all it did was make me roll my eyes, because of the exact trope that OP is talking about.