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Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god, really? I thought they were speaking two different languages the whole time... Now I feel a bit silly.

But why could the cats/dogs/rats (but not the mice) speak perfect Lapine then?

They did have art, though. Don't you remember the bunny poets? I thought it was implied those existed in many warrens.

I think history and mythology were mixed. Some of the stories about El-ahrairah were actually about El-ahrairah, while some of the stories about him were historical in the sense that they were about real rabbits and their deeds, but were told as El-ahrairah stories. Wasn't it implied somewhere close to the end that in the future some of those El-ahrairah stories would be about Hazel?

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I really wanted to like it too. It just didn't happen. However, I loved the other book I was reading at the same time. The comparison didn't really help Watership Down's case, though.

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[diet_poison]

Ok, fair point about the poetry.

I thought other animals all spoke this common uniting tongue, but some of them had really heavy accents or were not portrayed as being able to communicate as well, and I think that was a failing on the author's part (the inconsistency, at least).

What was the other book?

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[(Anonymous)]

So there were two languages after all? This is too complicated!

OK, so there is a true universal animal language that all animals everywhere speak (to some extent?) + the own language of the different species (like Lapine), yes?

And the rabbits were always talking Lapine with each other, but the universal language with other species? So Kehaar actually spoke Lapine with a heavy accent, not the universal animal tongue with an accent, yes?

Aww, that's sweet. He made such an effort to talk to his favourite bunny.

The other book was In Cold Blood by Truman Capote. That thing is a piece of art. But then, Capote is magic and had more talent in the tip of his little finger than Adams can ever even dream of possessing. Of course, that's just my opinion. :P

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[(Anonymous)]

And with that last paragraph, you can go fuck yourself good sir or madam.

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[(Anonymous)]

lol. does the truth hurt, sugar? or why are you so defensive?

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[diet_poison]

I thought Kehaar was speaking the universal language but with an accent.

Not that it has much bearing, to me, on the overall story. I think that's part of the difference in our interpretations.

That looks really depressing but also like it could be really interesting. (Of course, I'm not much one to talk about depressing when the other book I'm reading is about the biggest pandemic in human history and I find it fascinating)

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, the language thing is a small part overall, but i found it so confusing. which is why i kept thinking about it to make sense of it.

the book is very depressing. i don't like true crime at all usually, and this didn't change my mind about the genre, even if i think it's excellent.

what is your depressing book?

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[diet_poison]

The Great Influenza by John Barry

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[tabaqui]

He was. The 'hedgerow patois' that they all used to talk with other species. Adams mentions it twice in the book.

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[tabaqui]

It says in the book that Hazel, for instance, spoke to Kehaar in 'hedgerow patios' - basically a language all the animals shared that made them able to speak to one another, or at least to get basic ideas and information across. He used it with the mouse he saved, as well (Adams said 'there is a very simple, limited lingua frnca of the hedgerow and woodland').

So not two languages at all times, just when speaking to animals that didn't speak lapine. I would imagine, in Adams' world, the mice, and birds and foxes and etc. all have their own language; a lot like the diverse languages of Africa, and many people use Swahili to converse across that language barrier.

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[(Anonymous)]

Like Westron in Middle-earth!

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[tabaqui]

I will take your word for it! :)

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[(Anonymous)]

oh, i totally missed that he apparently addressed that. thanks for the info! i think the different levels of ability within the common tongue got me on the wrong track.

Re: Book club - November discussion for Watership Down!!!

[tabaqui]

No worries. :)