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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-11-27 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3616 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3616 ⌋

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Re: OP

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-11-28 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
"Not that it's something I'd want for EVERY franchise to do, but truthfully I think it's stopped a whole bunch of typical gamer "ew I'm not playing _____, they're a fag" type bullshit."

No, they just apply it to Zarya.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-11-28 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
OP again

Honestly I think that's mostly because Zarya's a masculine-coded woman. I don't think that would magically stop if she were confirmed to be the straightest straight lady to ever come outta Straightsville. I'm thinking it's less about her perceived sexuality and more about her perceived gender presentation. They're uncomfortable with her because she's a muscular lady who looks like she could break them, and that doesn't make their genitals tingle so therefore she's a bad character in their minds.

If anything I'd just picture the jokes getting even cruder if she were "confirmed straight". Instead of the "hurrdurr butch lesbian" stereotype it's going to be "I bet she loves to dominate the shit out of her men, she probably only likes wimpy little cucks who let her peg them while they crossdress" type rhetoric. I've already seen a little of that unfortunately.

People are uncomfortable with characters that don't fit into a certain mold, and Zarya definitely qualifies.

None of it is right, but there is an absolute "boys club" thing going on where male characters being homo/bi-sexual get shit on way harder than female characters being homo/bi-sexual. I saw something like it firsthand in another gaming franchise of mine, where a male character was confirmed as bisexual and the fanbase threw a homophobic hoopla while meanwhile in the same game there were two female on female kisses and it wasn't even mentioned by the same guys flipping out about a "faggot" in their game. It's just another gross reminder of how female homosexuality has been branded as being "for men" and male homosexuality has been branded as "taboo". Neither is a good thing. :(
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Re: OP

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-11-28 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
God, I am so glad I never hung out in the male-dominated sections of this fandom.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-11-28 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know why I bother to be honest. Being LGBT means I have almost zero in common with the average straight white fanboy of Overwatch and even if I like some of the same things they do we certainly don't take the same approach to it, but I like to spread my fandom experience across multiple platforms and sometimes that means I encounter idiots. :( Sometimes the fandom isn't so bad and I've been surprised by the average straight white fanboy before in other fandoms when they've casually accepted canon homosexuality and/or fujobaiting with not even the bat of an eyelash (or sometimes even getting in on the fun), but Overwatch's non-LGBT male fanbase is kind of cancerous sometimes.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-11-28 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I get that. I've hung out in male dominated fan spaces before like for video games or manga, and even though they're not terrible 100% of the time, In the past I have seen some, "gay people are gross and creepy and should just go away!!1" mindsets and opinions and it does hurt. :T
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Re: OP

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-11-28 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I check in sometimes on http://jen-iii.tumblr.com/. She's mainly Steven Universe, but she also reblogs a lot of Overwatch content that isn't heterocentric.