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Grace and Frankie (TV Series 2015– )

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As someone who does art commissions, I only find it annoying if the client has me make too many corrections to a piece when they could have been more specific in the first place. Ex. Don't say "Draw character x" then tell me "Actually, I wanted them in x pose" and then say "Could you redo the expression and maybe add more ruffles to their shirt, etc." To me, it's frustrating and takes time away that I could be spending on a more agreeable commissioner. I personally don't have that much energy and it's exhausting/disappointing to deal with someone who essentially nitpicks your work, you know?

Striking up a conversation with me is not annoying. I, and many other commission artists, would be happy to work for you, just as long as it's something we specialize in (ie. don't ask someone who focuses on mechanical art to draw something "soft," it's too big of a contrast). If you've seen an artist's work and think what you're requesting would be great in their style, don't hesitate to ask them!

One way to combat that sort of customer is to tell them there is an additional fee for revisions (if you don't already do this) it's common practice, and I really recommend doing it because a nitpicky commissioner can add hours to your work to the point that you're losing money.

Keep in mind you need to be getting paid for your time even if you give a flat quote to a customer.

I agree that it can still be annoying if someone wasn't clear in the first place (because really, then you're not just wasting my time but also yours) but as long as I'm getting paid for the changes it's easy to take them in stride.

Oh I'm extremely specific with artists, to the point where I provide my own references and a long written description as well. Sometimes there needs to be minor stuff, but I'm also pretty adamant about working that sort of thing out in the thumbnail stage. A recent artist I worked with I asked her to rough out a couple different poses because I'm fond of her work, I picked like the 4th pose (she did two batches of 3), I asked for a few tiny corrections in the thumbnail stage, she did them, the sketch was basically perfect except for two very minor issues (it was a smut commission, I asked if Character A's dick could be a bit thicker and a very small change on Character B's chest) which she changed as well, the end.

I really wouldn't say that sort of thing is nitpicking, is it? I mean, it's not that I'm saying "god I hate your art" or anything, obviously that's not why I'm throwing nearly $400 your way! It's more because short of drawing the actual photo myself it's impossible to list down to the last detail how you prefer things, you know? D: The changes I tend to ask for are really minor, and I try to be extremely clear in the first place so the artist has the best idea of what I'm looking for. If I go to an artist looking for a collaborative process like the one above I already pay for revisions after a mutual agreed upon point (most artists will have a set amount of revisions they'll do for free since obviously you're not going to hit it out of the park 100% of the time on the very first try), which I do gladly.

I also don't go asking for art outside of an artist's specialty since usually I'm going for them BECAUSE of other art they've done in a certain genre. The only minor exceptions to this might be "hey, you're really good at drawing X type of character, I know you don't know this fandom but do you think you could draw X type of character from this new one?" I don't go asking mecha artists for fluffy animals or asking smut artists for sprawling landscape work or anything though lol.

The only exceptions I've had is where sometimes I've had artists add things that I haven't asked for and I'm kind of put in the uncomfortable position of being like "...hey, could you please...not cover Character A in hickies and raw red lovebites when I didn't ask for that?" just as an example from an older commission. :/ That's when I get kind of uncomfortable. I'm going to an artist because I love their work, but I feel like that sort of stuff is something you don't add if a person hasn't specifically requested it.

I guess I just get anxious about commissions in general though. I don't know why. D:

Different anon. Honestly I see no problem in anything you're saying, you have realistic expectations about how to work with an artist and nothing you're talking about comes off as nitpicky.

If an artist adds something you didn't ask for, you totally have the right to ask them to get rid of it! If it's something minor like hickies, that wouldn't even take a long time to edit them out.

To me changes are only annoying if we're at the end at it's actually a pretty big change, but even then if you know I have a revision fee and agree to it, it's really not a big deal.

I'd be glad to have someone like you commission me, honestly.

Huh, well thank you. That makes me feel a little better. :) I'm not the type of person to ask for endless amounts of revisions and when I do ask for revisions I try and mention absolutely everything possible that I want changed within the confines of how far along the pic is. Like obviously if I need something coloured X way and the artist accidentally did it Y way that's not something I can let an artist know when the picture is still in the inking stage, but everything else I try to be really careful about so I don't waste an artist's time with multiple emails of different changes. And of course I gladly pay for revisions once I hit the artist's set limit too, with no problems.

Yeah, the hickies and lovebites thing threw me a little. It wasn't even subtle hickies/lovebites either, like I'm talking about where it looks like they would almost be bleeding with one more little nip or something, it was...kind of disconcerting on an otherwise gorgeous piece. Luckily there was no issue though and the artist took them off without a revision fee since she mentioned that it wasn't something I'd asked for. Granted, she does occasionally add them in her personal work but it's not exactly something she does all the time and there was zero reason to reasonably expect that she would add them, it wasn't even something I would have thought to ask her "not" to include, you know?

That's the reason why I try to work things out in the earlier stages. I think it's unfair to do to an artist to have them work on something until it's basically finished and then ask for a huge change like "Oh, completely change the position of that arm and leg that you've already sketched, inked and painted". Even if they'd be willing to pay the revision fee on something like that I feel like those sorts of situations should really try to be avoided.

Huh, well I know this is anon and you might not want to give your info out, but I'm always looking for talented artists to commission if you feel like just dropping your commission info or your art tumblr or something off. :)

I've had an artist add something in that I didn't request, and it was actually something that really squicked me out to the point where I couldn't even ask her to remove it myself, the friend I had co-commissioned with had to do it even though I'd been the point of contact previously.

It is really anxiety-making! I wish you anxiety-free commissions in the future. <3

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