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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-07 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3626 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3626 ⌋

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[Poldark]


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(Overwatch, X-Men, Hamilton)


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[Parks & Rec]


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[Fire Emblem Fates // Leo & Takumi]


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[Harry Potter (more specifically, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them)]











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[personal profile] fscom 2016-12-07 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't know why it doesn't bother me, but it really doesn't. Part of it is the incongruity between his happiness and normalcy outside the office, I think? It makes it feel less like bullying.
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[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-12-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think it would've made more sense in a different comedy - there are comedies, after all, where basically everyone is terrible and you sort of accept that "anything goes" in said universe. Like 30 Rock, with Lutz. (Although even there, Lutz got the last laugh!) But everyone was "the Lutz" at some point. Parks and Rec is a much "nicer" show, so Jerry getting treated like that sticks out like a sore thumb.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think the difference is that Lutz really is terrible, whereas Jerry really isn't, which means that it takes on this sense of being almost an in-joke. Like, it's totally divorced from reality, it's just this random thing everyone believes. But it also doesn't make him miserable, because he has an amazing home life as well.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - That, too.
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[personal profile] babydraco 2016-12-08 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're right. The fact that there's actually nothing wrong with him and he actually lives a fully satisfying grown up stable life is the joke. The main characters weren't exactly self aware people

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-12-08 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Jerry is a classic "Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass." It's hinted, but not really revealed, that he's doing it intentionally.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
this! I agree with a lot of the other comments here, but I had to comment on this in particular. I always had a kind of headcanon that he did it intentionally to make the people around him happy. He knew it helped them blow off steam, and he had a great life while most of them were frequently functioning in varying stages of dissatisfaction with their own lives, and he was happy to make a scapegoat of himself.

That said, one of my favorite things about the finale is the fact that he had a really great, happy ending. I think HIS ending was actually my favorite.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That could be, especially since the same writers are much more blatant about that being the case with Scully and Hitchcock. They intentionally act like buffoons because they're smart, excellent cops who just want to survive till retirement.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
With Scully and Hitchcock on B99, I mean.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-10 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
They're not-terrible, adequate cops who are capable of doing their job in the right circumstances, but they think they're fantastic and pretend that they're terrible.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think what the writers may have been going for is sometimes people get targeted for no reason even by people who are otherwise accepting in other areas. Making Jerry sad would have made it worse, but the fact that he's such a happy person with such a loving family gives him the last laugh.

It WAS excessive at times, and especially weird from characters who were otherwise kind, but at least there were a few episodes where people stood up for him. I like the episode where Ann won't let the others into the party unless they do something nice for him.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't bother me too much, in part because as others pointed out he's happy, which is half the joke, but also because I think it fits into the whole vein of humor running through that show about the characters *not* being great people in all aspects. Like, yes, a lot of them have incredibly close bonds and they're all generally good, kind, generous people--except Tom is only very rarely generous; Ron and Donna and April are all of these things but in very unexpected ways; Leslie is all of these things but she makes snap judgments and holds grudges and can do pretty awful things thinking she's doing the right thing. So for them all to be in on the joke of bullying Larry makes sense to me: they're all imperfect people who, like most normal people, take some small part of their joy in life from being nasty to someone else.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this.

And him having such an amazing life outside of work is what keeps the anti-Jerry stuff from feeling cruel overall. He doesn't let it get to him because his job is just something he does between having fun with his beautiful wife and daughters who all adore him. If anything, I think he actually kind of enjoys being That Guy at work, because it keeps expectations for him low.

Also, apparently his actor fucking loved it all. I mean, it made him a more integral part of the ensemble and the offset meant that he got to snuggle up with Christie Brinkley. Win/win.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-08 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was the one part of the show that never really felt right to me. Like I understand what everyone else is saying... but it still just felt a little too mean.
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[personal profile] rivia 2016-12-08 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
no i never liked it either, like, i didn't watch parks and rec for that sort of comedy, i liked parks and rec because it wasn't (usually) that sort of comedy

b99 kind of does the same thing with hitchcock and scully but that never bothered me though, so idk. maybe because those two are just lazy and gross old men and proud of it and every time they get mocked they're like 'yeah, and?'.
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[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-12-09 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, I like him! :o