[ SECRET POST #477 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #477 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 393 secrets from Secret Submission Post #069.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 (lolol) 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - personal attack ], [ 1 - person has TOO MUCH FREE TIME ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[kuromitsu.livejournal.com]

Well, yeah. I'm not saying she served no purpose (if we say that the purpose was eliminating an espada), and I agree that it was no small feat for her to defeat Aroniero (god, what a name) after all that mindfuck... still, it didn't really impress me exactly because the only thing Aroniero had against Rukia was Kaien. Imagine her running into someone else - not even Szayel or Grimm, but say, Zomari. (Okay, of course we know that she fought Aroniero exactly for this reason, but let's forget about that now. :D;;) So while she fought well for her power level, the fight was, I think, somewhat like Ishida's fight with Mayuri back in Soul Society - a good personal fight, but without much impact on the overall plot. (Because let's face it, Renji or Ichigo could've killed Aroniero with one arm tied back, and even Ishida shouldn't have had much problems with him, provided of course that Kubo remembered who he was that day. Poor Quincy boy. The only one I see losing to Aroniero is Chad but poor kid would lose to a kitten, anyway.)

As for the Szayel vs Mayuri fight, I loved it exactly for thas reason (even though I was kind of seething all the time for Ishida getting character raped - goddammit, is Mayuri ever going to get his comeuppance for all what he's done?). It was fun seeing such a fight instead of the usual HURR HURR MY BANKAI IS BIGGER!11

[georg-vanlunden.livejournal.com]

Heh, all true. Then again, too me it felt like... NO fight had any bearing on the plot really, because it was apparently Aizens plan to have half of his men murderized all along. So what I'm trying to say is that Rukia fighting what was essentially a useless fight doesn't upset me so much because everyone ELSE where also fighting a useless fight. In the end, none of their battles really mattered, which... makes me very frustratedreader overall, but it feels less like Rukia's fault, more like KT.

However, I don't really have a counterargument for the power-debate. That is just true, Rukia IS slipping behind the rest of them, sad as it is, and if that is what upsets people... I guess I can't really argue against them. Because hey, it's true and it sucks that KT doesn't want to put her on the same level as the others. No argument there.

And regarding the little Quincy who couldn't, I first thought the fans where being kinda whiny about that, since my line of thinking was "He's just been beaten all to hell and back, I'm sure he realizes that he's not in a position to start shit", and I still kinda feel that way... but then again, I also see how someone's who is a bigger fan than I am of the boy would be upset at his acceptance when he has so often before been defined as being very angry and reacting in a very emotional way to these things. I guess the reason I'm not complaining is that I, truth to be told, like him better when he knows when to shut up. I am a cruel man.

And yes, to answer both your second paragraph here and the comment above, I loved how damn WEIRD the fights could get. I mean, the crack capslock Bleach spun of Kittygrimm alone made it solid gold, and how it was basically a furry version of Gamma just made it better. Speaking of Mayuri, the way he and Urahara are being set up right now seems to me to indicate that they're behind the Vizard, and that if anyone kicks his ass it will be one of them. Or, KT will just defy tradition and just ALLOW Mayuri to get away with everything, because Soul Society needs him and that is that.

[kuromitsu.livejournal.com]

Well, sure, in the end it's all Kubo's fault. :D Still, the reason I think I understand the poster of the secret is that one reason I liked Rukia back then, before the Soul Society arc, was because she was weak - and not as she's now. She didn't have her powers, she was basically defenseless, and she was still a strong character without any trace of damsel-in-distressness. I really didn't like what happened to her during the Soul Society arc (all that angst and "hey, let's throw Rukia around like a sack of potatoes!"), and now she has her powers back - and she can't really do anything with them, yet she pulls these suicide stunts and of course gets defeated and needs to be rescued and worried about. (yay, grammar!) I appreciate a lot that she went to help Orihime (I also like them together, dammit), but I wonder if there couldn't have been any other way through which she could've been more effective. Frankly, I don't really want her to be stronger - I'd be really disappointed if suddenly she learned bankai or something. What I'd like to see is her realizing that she's weak compared to the rest of the gang, and dealing with the fact as she would've done back then when she had almost no powers at all. Or something.

As for Ishida, my biggest problem is not his easy acceptance or even that he can't fight the way he should be able to; it's that his antagonism toward Mayuri was very obviously played for comic relief, and that in the end he was not only civil to Mayuri, he even worried about his zanpakutou getting broken. It's like doing comedy sketches with Ichigo and the Grand Fisher, and Ichigo going "your tentacle-thing is broken, are you okay?" I understand that Ishida's story is not relevant in any way anymore, and as fan I'm probably overreacting, but still, it hurts a little to see this. Especially as I actually see Mayuri getting away with everything - I have a feeling he likes the character. (Which is alright, but...)