[ SECRET POST #477 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #477 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 393 secrets from Secret Submission Post #069.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 (lolol) 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - personal attack ], [ 1 - person has TOO MUCH FREE TIME ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 35

[(Anonymous)]

Seeing Shinji being an extremely popular character at Japanese magazines' polls I would say his flaws indeed made him likable.

Re: 35

[(Anonymous)]

It shouldn't be a surprise that the Western and Eastern fanbases are different. How many people here do you actually think like him? Another character with flaws is Chibiusa from Sailor Moon, who is bratty and immature but eventually grows up. I can't speak for the Eastern fanbase, but she's pretty hated in the West. Don't make generalizations such as "every character has flaws to make them likable". There are almost always exceptions to every rule.

Re: 35

[lanjelin.livejournal.com]

Actually, Shinji is pretty popular here in Sweden as well.

I don't think character flaws are there to make characters popular, but to male them more human and easier to relate to. When an author loves a character too much to give them a "real" flaw, i.e. something that might actually be detrimental to them in some way, I'd say the border of Sueland is being breached.

Otherwise, the only clear examples of Sues tend to be when the character bends reality. That is, when a character can somehow work outside the laws of the canon they're in, and/or causes extremely uncharacteristic behaviour in other characters.

The only examples I've run into in published fiction are Anita Blake in Laurell Hamilton's series (though she didn't start out as a Sue), and the female lead in Elizabeth Hayden's "Rhapsody" series. People really are overly prone to call characters Sues when they simply don't like them.