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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-09 07:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #3628 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3628 ⌋

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Re: Where did "anti-PC" backlash come from?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-10 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not any more or less of a stupid generalisation than saying "everyone not 100 % down with liberal leftist views is automatically a misogynistic racist bigot" but that's still what a lot of people are saying here.

Re: Where did "anti-PC" backlash come from?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-10 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
How extreme people have gotten, the issues with internet discourse, and and how personal the attacks can get is an issue, and the more extreme and aggressive things get the easier it is to dismiss the other side. Trump is extreme and aggressive, and for what it's worth there are more extreme conservatives in power than extreme leftists (even before Trump, like the Tea Party - there's no real liberal equivalent to them with political power) so their policies will be discussed more. Should I, as a liberal, try to understand and communicate with them? I would say yes, but a lot of them would dismiss me and my arguments on a knee jerk basis and dismiss me as misguided or even an SJW because of my politics, as many of the users here dismiss conservatives on a knee jerk basis. That's probably where some of the frustration comes from.

There are things people on opposing sides can connect with. For example, there are many of my followers and online peers whose politics I disagree with for various reasons. I don't pick a fight with them, but try to connect on things we have in common that don't relate to politics.

Re: Where did "anti-PC" backlash come from?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-10 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it is a stupider generalization. I mean, imputing a personal bigotry towards people is a generalization, it's not always true nor is it helpful. But at the same time, people who disagree with liberal leftist views do at least actually disagree over what it means to be misogynistic/bigoted/racist. So there's at least something we can talk about there. Whereas the whole structure of authoritarianism that you're talking about is just... wrong and unhelpful.

Re: Where did "anti-PC" backlash come from?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-10 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Leftists aren't a hivemind on these issues either. Some take a stance that economic issues take priority over social ones and must be dealt with first. Others take the opposite view and say racism/sexism/etc. directly feed economic inequality and one must be engaged to take action on the other. Some oppose or reject stereotypical SJW tactics (doxxing people, public callouts) as harmful, misguided, and alienating. Some actively engage in them. The same is true of conservatives - many are fair-minded people who will hear opposing views out, and many are not.

It's true that it's unfair and doesn't help discussion to say all conservatives are personally racist/sexist/homophobic, and it's also unfair to say liberals are all SJW authoritarians. In general it's a logical fallacy to judge a group as a whole by its worst members (although the worst members are often the loudest and most prolific).