[ SECRET POST #3635 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3635 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[tabaqui]

I'm not saying exclude SPN from that - but I'm pointing out that that argument is used to *dismiss* 'problematic' things that we discuss in this community all the time.

Just in this post, we had a 'Willow is bi to me, but it's okay because she's just fiction and the writers kinda fucked up' comments. So - there's that argument, right there. And it happens all the time in this comm.

So does 'omg, that's fucked up, i won't watch that anymore!' 'you're right, me either!' comments and discussions.

I'm just saying - this is the first time I've ever seen this video/argument brought up, *ever*, in this comm, and i'm wonder why Supernatural in specific an not all the tons of other stuff that's offensive, problematic, etc.

(and the real and perceived 'problems' with Supernatural are and have been discussed ad nauseam in this comm and all over fandom for years, so it's not like it's been getting a break or anything)

[feotakahari]

A lot of the arguments I see in fandom are Watsonians and Doylists not understanding each other: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Watsonian_vs._Doylist Watsonians assume Doylists are really bad at being Watsonians, and Doylists assume Watsonians can't tell the difference between fiction and reality. I think the Thermian Argument isn't openly discussed much because understanding how it functions and why it's misguided requires understanding both Watsonian and Doylist analysis.

[tabaqui]

Interesting. Another theory/idea/whathaveyou I've never heard of. :)