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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-27 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #3646 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3646 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who is not autistic and avoids eye contact with people 90% of the time for shyness/self-conscious reasons, I would be fairly upset if people labeled me as autistic because of it. I have not seen this movie, so I have no idea if Newt gives off other "vibes" to have people place him on the spectrum.

I'd have to say that I am a bit tired of the labeling trend, though. Characters can just be quirky without having a disorder or illness (and I hate seeing a character I really relate to being diagnosed, especially if we're very similar in personality or mannerisms).

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Why does it bother you though? I too am shy/don't like making eye contact, etc, and sometimes people have asked if I'm on the spectrum (I'm not) and it doesn't offend me. Seems kind of oversensitive to be tbh

DA

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Because maybe having a label forced on you for no other reason than to make the person imposing the label feel better is a pretty shitty thing.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
someone mistaking you for something isn't "forcing the label on you" - get over it

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Have you been checked to make sure you're not autistic? I'm asking for real, not trying to insult you by implying that you are, even though you sound like you'll be insulted anyway. I'm just saying you can't say you're not if you haven't been tested.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
...You do realize that getting an autism diagnosis isn't like getting your blood typed, yes?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe because it's pathologizing something that can be a perfectly normal behavior. People can have all sorts of quirks and eccentricities that have nothing to do with mental illness, and it's kind of offensive to immediately jump to the assumption that someone who is doing something slightly odd is mentally ill.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
Unless they are immediately jumping to treat you shitty cause they think you have a mental illness, who cares though? Assuming is never great, but being mentally ill isn't an inherently bad thing, so why would I be offended if someone asks?

Plus, its not like me avoiding eye contact is superior to an autistic person avoiding eye contact.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Because it reinforces the supremely shitty belief that anything that deviates from the Norm is disordered/dysfunctional/ill/weird/bad, and that "the Norm" has a very limited, rigid, and narrow set of traits/behaviours.

It's what makes people say dumb shit about (for example) "Ha ha, I am so OCD!!!" because they like to keep their food from touching on their plate (for example), and that's it, that's the end of their list of symptoms. (Never mind the fuckery of saying "I am [a disorder]" instead of "I have [a disorder].")

Y'all, people are quirky. No two of us are alike. There's a fucking huge array of variations in the human character, and when people pathologize ultimately harmless quirks, they are indirectly pressuring people to conform to a very narrow definition of Normal.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
but by acting like being disordered/dysfunctional/ill = bad (as in, intrinsically bad) is just as harmful as people stereotyping and being reductive about symptoms. Being offended when someone compares you to someone with a disorder is equally reductive, and equally pressures people to conform - ie its good to be quirky but being autistic is bad

What I am saying is, some people don't like eye contact cause they're autistic, some people don't like eye contact cause they were abused, some people don't like it for no reason at all, they just don't. None of these are better or more normal.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Another reason is because they might have something different such as social anxiety. I think I have only seen one fictional character who was diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder period...unless you also count Fluttershy but she has not been officially diagnosed.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-28 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Characters can just be quirky without having a disorder or illness

This is like the "not every character has to be gay" argument against slash. Guess what, almost all quirky characters are written to "just" be quirky without the writer having any disorder in mind. People headcanon'ing differently won't change that, so calm down, you're in the majority here.