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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-28 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3647 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3647 ⌋

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-12-29 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've all but stopped reading sci-fi with a male name on the cover (with exceptions for the older greats, of course, like PKD.)

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Tad Williams is alright, and I've yet to hear anything bad about Brandon Sanderson.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Seconded about Sanderson! I've really enjoyed everything he's put out, and he's really good about communicating with his fans, such as having progress bars on his website...

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
I have my disappointments about Sanderson tbh, but he's so good at the things he does well that it's mostly worth it.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
That, frankly, seems pretty dumb.

I mean, I don't think it's exactly hard to tell whether a science fiction writer is a shithead or not. I think we have plenty of more exact tests.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
God that's so edgy.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-12-29 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
You didn't need to post twice.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

You realize that more than one person can disagree with you, right? (I would also cite the fact that the other post, which I made, has actual statements in it instead of calling you edgy)

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I didn't.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-12-29 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, "edgy" is being used for this now? I thought it was usually directed at the anti-sj side?

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't actually done this yet, but I see the appeal.
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[personal profile] were_lemur 2016-12-29 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
While I haven't deliberately made an attempt to stop reading books by male authors, I've found recently that I'm a lot less likely to take a chance on a new (to me) author if they're a man.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you hating on prostitutes? Aren't we supposed to respect sex workers and treat them like legitimate contributing members of society now?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Frank Miller is not writing sex-positive portrayals of prostitutes. You can think prostitutes are fine while also thinking there's a feminist problem with prostitutes and the depiction of women in media.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Because the book goes into so much detail about how female sexuality is packaged for male consumers, but there's never any sense of what's sold to female consumers. It's like the author never even considered the idea that women buy things and have a part in determining how marketing is targeted. Their only purpose in the world of the novel is as objects to be marketed themselves.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well...MOST things related to sex that aren't explicitly for women ARE marketed toward men. So...you're blaming someone for reflecting reality?

Oh, is this one of those "fuck anything realistic ever being in sci fi! It should be full of social justice because it's fiction and can be!!" rants?

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I was just watching "Hysterical Literature" on Youtube, and that branched off into hypnosis-induced orgasms, and the thing that struck me was how women are always the ones shown off being brought to orgasm for the audience. In fact the only male versions I've seen thereof are parodies.

I definitely think the comment about packaging of female sexuality for male consumers is spot-on in that light.

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-12-29 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Considering the original comic this is an edit of was aimed at Frank Miller, I think you hit the nail on the head.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I know that this is a troll comment (or else you are a tremendous twat), but this is no way "hating on prostitutes." It's requesting female characters that aren't prostitutes because, like, not all women have sex for money.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, if you think about it, it's really very stupid to say that because you want to see different types of characters, you must hate the ones that exist.

It's the same logic that claims diversity on TV equals white genocide.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
And there are a female characters existing in the world who are not prostitutes. This guy writes about prostitutes. Why shouldn't they get representation, since we're not supposed to stigmatize sex work anymore?

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
If a guy

1. Hates the internet
2. Hates women

It means he's just as bad as Trump, but with less money.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-29 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
wait what does the Internet bit have to do with this