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⌈ Secret Post #481 ⌋

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15- Mary Sue=/=Self insert. There can be good self inserts, and not self insert Mary Sues. Mary Sue means a bad type of OC that usually over laps with self inserts.

43- Ditto. At least on LJ.

51- Not that I haven't been impressed with people who actually did deep and get decent asian PB's, but since most are like "LOL J rrock idol I adore!" yeah....Sorry, your J rock person looks nada like Naruto/Sailor Moon/Gaara/Ed Elric (Not that I haven't seem some that do, but most...don't)

53- She's dressed as Sailor moon :D /random

I suppose, but I still think that self-insertion (or, at the very least, wish fulfillment) has a big role to play in making the Sue. What really pisses me off is this new wave of canon!Sue bullshit that can basically be applied to any vaguely interesting fictional character. There are canon!Sues: Wesley Crusher and Richard Rahl come to mind. They're basically flawless and are easily identifiable as either self-inserts or mouthpieces for the author. That's what I was trying to say, even if I worded it poorly.

That being said, a self-insert, or wish-fulfilling OC, does not necessarily become a Mary Sue.

No, Stephen King, for one, writes self insert that certainly wouldn't be called Mary Sue's at all.

BUT it's a hard road to walk because, for example, one of my biggest <Mary Sues was a 15 year old blond asian boy I am none of the above) so there was little "self" in it. I DO think canon!Sue gets applied to broadly, but in other cases not enough. *shrug*

I noticed that too. Wtf? :\

It's purty at least. Isn't she from one of the new wave of anime that mocks anime? (I'm pretty sure she's from TTGL. I'm not sure of it's parody levels. But that might explain it)

[ SECRET POST #481 ]

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