[ SECRET POST #481 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Uhhh, lots of people are submitting secrets to the actual secret posts/the suggestions post and not the submissions post -- the submission post is → here ←, make sure you're posting them in the right place!

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 127 secrets from Secret Submission Post #069.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - yes, it was totally personal ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - uh, fairly sure you worded this one wrong ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 26

[vivalanaomi.livejournal.com]

Andreas Capellanus argued that jealousy is so entwined with love that true love doesn't exist without jealousy, a possessiveness. If so, I certainly see this in some aspects of fannish behavior. They are not jealous over their ship, they are jealous over the interpretations of the canon they love. So they react with hostility for alternative views which challenge their sense of ownership.

Re: 26

[velvet-mace.livejournal.com]

Well, my 18 years of comfortably secure marriage would argue that Andreas Capellanus is full of crap, but certainly a lot of people who are insecure about themselves turn to jealousy as a way of defending their relationship. This makes me think that perhaps these people are worried that they will fall out of love with their ship.

Come to think of it, a lot of people do seem to fall out of love with their ship when canon negates it. That was something else that blew my mind. I mean how is Harry/Luna less wonderful now than it was a book ago?

Re: 26

[vivalanaomi.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Andreas was kinda insane. And Harry/Luna is in no way, shape, or form less wonderful. It is adorable. But I love Luna so I can handle her with just about anybody, so I'm biased. I guess Harry/Luna is where I can sorta see where the shippers are coming from, since I expected that ship to be the endgame when Luna was introduced, but I find I'm not all that disappointed that it's not.

Honestly, part of the problem with shipping is that it puts too much emphasis on relationships, when a character's worth or happiness usually is so much beyond that.

Re: 26

[velvet-mace.livejournal.com]

Oh I knew Ginny would be the endgame the moment she was introduced in book 1, for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with personalities or romance. Ginny is a vehicle for Harry to marry the Weasley family because Harry can't marry Ron. LOL. I saw Harry's family envy on the platform and thought: Somehow, someway, he's going to end up part of that family so he'll be happy. And lo, there's a Weasley girl who's one year younger than Harry... how convenient. I wasn't as certain of Hermoine hooking up with Ron, but, hey, friendships not good enough, it's gotta be marriage vows. As my friend put it, Rowling is awesome at writing friendships and terrible at writing romances. Luna's purpose seemed to be to show that "you don't have to fit in to be a hero." But she was a far more interesting character than Ginny, and Rowling obviously put a lot of love into describing her, whereas Ginny is famous for doing cool things off camera where we can only hear of them in the dullest possible way.

Honestly, part of the problem with shipping is that it puts too much emphasis on relationships, when a character's worth or happiness usually is so much beyond that. Yeah, I was complaining to someone the other day about actual plotfics being flipping rare.

Re: 26

[karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com]

I am in awe of your powers of observation.