[ SECRET POST #481 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Uhhh, lots of people are submitting secrets to the actual secret posts/the suggestions post and not the submissions post -- the submission post is → here ←, make sure you're posting them in the right place!

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 127 secrets from Secret Submission Post #069.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - yes, it was totally personal ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - uh, fairly sure you worded this one wrong ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[katsu]

Actually, the term "Mary Sue" doesn't mean a self-insert. The whole thing start back in the 70s with a parody of Star Trek fanfiction that was meant to mock the wish fulfillment characters people were inserting in to it. A Mary Sue is a character that is loved by the rest of the characters for absolutely no reason, and is normally unrealistically built to be either completely perfect or just right for some wanktastic angst. (And classically, gets to kick the ass of the author's least favorite character and sleep with or be BFF with the author's favorite character.) That sort of bride at every wedding, corpse at every funeral thing. So a self-insertion can be a Mary Sue, but not all self-inserts are.

That said, no clue what the whole comm is about. However, considering the term "Mary Sue" was coined specifically for fanfiction, I'd be hesitant to call a canon character a Mary Sue. I'd just call it shitty writing and leave it at that.

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[(Anonymous)]

I agree, a canon character can be overly-perfect, poorly written and unrealistic –but they still aren’t a Mary Sue.