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Okay. So. Really really REALLY suggest you go to a professional, that is always my first thing, but I acknowledge that finances and transportation and mistrust are all valid things so.

IF you are going to do this, you will need: 1) A mirror and/or a friend to help you because again, you CANNOT see the back and you don't want to secretly have jacked up hair. 2) SHARP scissors meant for hair. Kitchen scissors are huge and clunky and if your shears aren't sharp enough the hair will bend and cutting a straight line will be a bitch. 3) a comb, duh. 4) clips!

Section your hair into three sections according to your part line (So for example if you part down the middle, your first two sections will be from the Apex of your head to behind your ear with the middle separating them), and then the back as your third section. It is best if you cut hair layer by layer, so, let down a small section at the bottom, as straight as you can, cut that, and then bring the next down. If you want hair to curve under, cut that ever so slightly longer than the bottom and keep cutting this way. Do the back section first, then the front, layer by layer. If you part to the side, the heavier side with more hair may look longer without actually being longer. This is okay! But cut to your comfort. If you are going for shoulder length, remember your shoulders will push up your hair if it touches them and you may feel it curls or twists awkwardly because of this. If cutting wet (please cut wet), make sure you leave a half an inch to an inch longer so when it dries you don't panic that it's too short. (especially true for bangs which often have cowlicks that make them bounce!) If you are cutting bangs, point cut with the tips of the scissors rather than cutting straight across and getting school girl bangs.

If you do not frequently wear short hair, i recommend cutting longer than shoulders and working your way up because some people panic.

This is really hard to explain without visuals so please do not be afraid to come to me with any questions! I paid 17,000 dollars to learn this I am thrilled to get to talk about it.

Not OP - this is really useful. Thanks!

You're welcome! I really enjoy talking about my career, and I was worried I'd gotten a bit rambly, so I'm glad someone got something out of it!

I actually have a question about haircutting!
See, I have curly hair, and I am kind of tired of incompetent stylists who say they know how to cut curls, but really don't. I'm in America, where it seems curly hair is just less common, and I really don't want a lousy haircut again :(
How can I find the people who *do* know what to do and will make my hair look good? This is especially crucial because I wear it short, so the haircut can make a huge difference...

This is a problem I see frequently, and as a woman with straight hair in an area without a whole lot of curly haired clientele, I try to make it my business to research curl. Not everyone does that, unfortunately, and it can be difficult to find someone. I've absolutely had curly haired people in my chair who are super nervous.

It can be hard to tell with stylists because we are trained not to let on if we are struggling, bevause it makes clients uneasy. A good stylist will be upfront and honest with you (I try to be) but a lot of us will try to fix the damage ourselves first. There is a reason there's still a pretty big racial divide in styling, and it's not entirely unwarranted.

My suggestion is to find someone who sounds like they know what they're talking about. I work in a relatively cheap salon that still has great stylists, but the saying in our industry is "you get what you pay for" so avoid chop shops like great clips where the goal is to have you out in fifteen minutes and move on. If you can find a stylist who HAS curly hair, great! In bigger areas there are salons that cater almost exclusively to black clients, (thanks to that unfortunately often true stereotype that white people don't know how to cut curly hair) and I don't know your ethnicity but if you have a tighter curl you might want to check that out. If that's not an option, find a stylist who will consult with you thoroughly first (we should all do this but unfortunately we don't ) and who listens to your concerns. They should be able to tell you exactly what they're going to do to your hair and why. I've cut curly hair wet before, and you can do it with some kinds of curl, but if you've had had experiences I'd recommend finding someone who will cut your hair dry. (Some types of curl should ONLY be cut dry)

Ugh I'm mobile and it's six am (why doed anyone need hair done at 8 in the morning on a monday GO TO BED) So please ask if any of that was confusing or if you feel I didn't really answer your question.

Thanks for the suggestions! Looking for a curly-haired stylist is definitely a good idea (so obvious, almost, yet I didn't think of it!). My hair isn't curled tightly like black hair. My stylist back home cuts it wet - but then, she has curly hair herself, and many curly-haired clients, and has never given me a bad haircut.
But I will look around and see if there is somebody who can cut it dry, so at least I'll know more about what they're doing and how it'll look.

My issue is that a lot of the salons aren't very accessible to me :( and some of the nicer ones are quite expensive, and I just don't know if they'll really do a good job for that price, or also a mediocre cut, and then it'll just be money down the drain... ugh. I do love my hair, it's great hair, but difficult to find people here to treat it right.

aaaaaaaaaaand I completely didn't notice that I wasn't logged in -_-

Thanks for the answer, though!

No problem! If you've had a wet cut before and it came out good you should be fine with a wet cut but dry cutting takes out all the guess work of "how much will this curl bounce up?"

Definitely check out reviews for salons you near you (with a grain of salt of course, as with anything). If they have a Facebook page, they'll have pictures of their best work and what stylists did it so you can get a feel for their skill. Unfortunately price isn't always an indicator but there should be ways to check them out beforehand.

I'm so glad you love your hair, though! It makes me so sad how many curly haired clients I have insisting I dry it straight because they hate their hair so much.

See, I have a whole story about the hair-loving! I didn't used to love it - it wasn't anything special, just kind of puffy, and I always kept it in a ponytail. Because, you see, I have the same hair as my dad, and his is always kept short, so nobody knew to tell me that you don't brush curly hair. Then, in 8th grade I chopped it all off, and when it started growing out, I was like wait???? My hair is beautiful! Look at the curls!! Little ringlets everywhere!! and I've been a happy camper ever since XD

Maybe you could try to convince any dark-curly-haired clients to do streaks in bright colors? Not gradients or anything, just solid streaks scattered through the hair. You get colored curls popping out between the rest, and it looks amazing. I get so many compliments on my hair, and apparently it's a style that not many curly-haired women think to try.

Another thing is using the right products. Back home we have this stuff called hair cream (no idea what's in it), but it helps keep the curls together and prevents frizz. I don't need it, but a lot of my friends use it.
I agree with you :( it's sad when people don't love their hair, and especially that there's this hate-on for curly hair (also in the media! why are all the "sexy makeovers" straightening???)

Because, you see, I have the same hair as my dad, and his is always kept short, so nobody knew to tell me that you don't brush curly hair.

This is another recurring theme for me. I have had clients sit their frizzy haired children in my chair and insist it all needs to go because it's unmanageable. And really it just turns out that they are straight haired people with curly haired children who never bothered to learn how to deal with curly hair, or who tried but assumed it would be the same as caring for straight hair. It's always fun to watch their surprise when I have their child properly styled in under ten minutes with no fuss, but some of them are not going to put in the same care at home. So frizzy haired children become frizzy haired adults who hate their hair. The first question I ask anyone who tells me they hate their curls is 'do you own a pick?' 9/10 times the answer is 'No, why?' I'm so glad you got to skip all that!

Maybe you could try to convince any dark-curly-haired clients to do streaks in bright colors?

That sounds amazing, and I'm a sucker for bright colors! I will definitely be suggesting that to future clients.

Another thing is using the right products.

This is SO important. I swear most of the hair complaints I see boil down to either 'wrong shampoo' or 'not using product.' People think product means more work, but I spend less than ten minutes a day on my hair and my product drawer is STUFFED with things that easily tame frizz or add shine or remove grease.

We've got some great curl products in the salon, but my favorite thing for curly hair is oil. I've found that a lot of curly hair gets dry at the ends, and oil tames frizz and adds that needed moisture.

also in the media! why are all the "sexy makeovers" straightening???

I could go on a very long rant about racism here but this is long enough (Obviously white people have curls too but the stigma against curly hair has some heavy roots in racism). Princess Diaries is an especially bad offender, just get the girl some leave in conditioner and a pick!

btw, another advantage of dyed streaks in curly hair is that you don't need to fix roots or anything - you can just let it grow out naturally, especially if you put the streaks on lower layers of the hair, so the roots are slightly hidden. The curls camouflage where the roots grow out, so it's super low-maintenance and less expense than having to worry about redoing roots every so often. I usually leave mine in until it all grows out and gets cut away in haircuts.

Yeah, tbh I think that curly hair properly maintained can be very low-stress, once you figure out its idiosyncrasies. A little bit of treatment and you're done. It's especially good with medium-length, because then you hardly have to do anything to it. (I mean, of course different curls are different, and some are more hassle than others...)
I'm glad that at least you're doing your part to try and help those people. Maybe some of them will grow to love their hair... or at least take better care of it.

Another funny hair story, this time about straight hair: some friends of mine have the straightest, slickest hair I've ever seen. it's thick and looks great, but it's so smooth it won't even stay in a ponytail. It's so smooth it hardly even takes dye - where I can keep dye for 4 months and still have it look bright, for them it washes out in a few weeks. Even bleaching hardly takes. It's pretty wild.

btw, another advantage of dyed streaks in curly hair is that you don't need to fix roots or anything

That would be a major selling point for so many of my clients.

Yeah, tbh I think that curly hair properly maintained can be very low-stress, once you figure out its idiosyncrasies.

Yeah, I'm sure there are types of curl that I would need more practice with, but for the most part, if I can do your hair in under fifteen minutes, so can you.

I'm glad that at least you're doing your part to try and help those people.

I try! It's difficult because people tend to want perfect hair with no maintenance. Not 'little' maintenance, but none. And I live in a terrible area. But I do my best.

Another funny hair story, this time about straight hair:

Wow I've never experienced anything like that! That sounds really interesting to play with.

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