[ SECRET POST #482 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #482 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 62 secrets from Secret Submission Post #069.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[mellow-dk.livejournal.com]

#26. A. Most "real sci fi fans" started reading sci fi when they were teenagers. And B. If you want it to be with the grownup books and not the kiddie books, then all you have to do is make your main characters adults.

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[andmydog.livejournal.com]

Also, "daydreaming and typing the results"? Yeah, um. Good luck with that, honey.

Re: 26

[rosehiptea.livejournal.com]

Well, that is how I write my fanfic, but there's a huge step in between called "making it into something someone who isn't me would actually like to read."

26's OP

[(Anonymous)]

Of course that's what I do as well. I just didn't put it in the secret because I... Thought people would assume.

Re: 26

[mellow-dk.livejournal.com]

I'm so proud of myself for staying polite. The only way to completely exclude teenagers from reading a work, is if it is written like textbook, and then you'll have no audience at all, because boring.

26's OP

[(Anonymous)]

I never said that they couldn't read it if they wanted to, I just don't want that to be my primary audience. I want other people to give it a chance, too.

Re: 26's OP

[mellow-dk.livejournal.com]

Then like I said later, if you want to sell it to adults, make your main characters adults. I've seen soooo many books marketed to kids only because they have young protagonists. The content doesn't matter so much, but I can only think of a few books that have an adult as the protagonist, that are marketed to kids, and most of those are "classics" that weren't for kids originally, but are now because they don't have the R material that modern books have.

Re: 26's OP

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is, one of the first things I want to get published is a short story collection, where the main characters vary in age a lot from story to story (when age is even mentioned, most of my characters are just ambiguously somewhere in their 20's without anything being said about it, with teenagers occasionally popping up). And I've also seen adult books with young protagonists, so I don't know how that works, and it makes me wonder if there's some way to say "look, I know it's about a kid, but it's not a kid's book, it's an adult book about a kid."

Nyeh, I hope I made sense.

Re: 26's OP

[mellow-dk.livejournal.com]

You do. I guess it's more a matter of what you write, and what your publisher thinks is best. Short stories are likely to be marked to adults, but it's hard to get short stories published as a book, unless they've been in other publications first. Where you'd sell them (and your other work) has a big influence on how your later work will be classified (which is why Neil Gaiman kinda hates Borders, because they keep putting his picture books in the graphic novels). It's also going to depend on what you're writing. Hard Science fiction is "adult", fantasy can go either way. And yeah, I've seen "adult" books with young protaginists, but that seems to happen less in genre fiction then it does in straight fiction.

But yeah, you should be able to discuss some of it with your agent and the publisher, but they're going to want to put you where you can make the greatest return on their investment.

[alenxa.livejournal.com]

Considering that many sci-fi/fantasy stories are coming-of-age, making characters teenagers often works just as well. Or old enough/in a situation to have consensual sex. Or, as with the Ender books, heavily themed with militarism, dystopia, and killing things.

[mellow-dk.livejournal.com]

True, but the Ender books are also sold in Young Adult versions, and I 'd have to check, but they may also have Intermediate versions as well. So primary market is one thing, but publishers often do several editions, that have no changes but for font size. So what I was thinking, but totally failed to state, was that if the author only wants one edition sold in the grown-up aisle, then not having anyone under 16 as the protagonist is the easiest way to go about it.