[ SECRET POST #482 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #482 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 62 secrets from Secret Submission Post #069.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[paperclipchains.livejournal.com]

It's not like saying "you don't like yaoi because you're a homophobe" because it's a response to people not liking the girls for sexist reasons - she's "a whore," she "gets in the way," she's "useless." People who hold these opinions rarely contain them to a few characters, but will paint almost every female character with the same brush.

There's no such thing as a "somewhat exceptional amount of fail" and the notion makes no sense whatsoever. Female characters in fiction do get shafted. I don't know what you're saying beyond that, so I'll just acknowledge that point.

Why do we need to add qualifiers like "for a shonen series aimed at teenage boys?" Should that really matter? Yes, of course the female characters are decent. A lot of female characters are way better than people give them credit for. I'm not sure what the point you're trying to make us. How does any of this change the fact that sexism runs rampant both in fandom and the source material for various fandoms?

[penguinfaery.livejournal.com]

Except that's not all she was saying. You'll note I didn't disagree with the whore one, but being a stalker or an asshole (Which, although she used the terms bitch which is gender specific usually, the *idea* is her personality) aren't something to do with their sex. There is canon reason to think Ino is an asshole, or Hinata is a stalker...there aren't canon reasons to call Sakura a whore, and that's why, like I said, SOME do have points.

And yes I'm sure fangirls paint females with this borad brush, but two generalizations (one being the fans girls, the other being the OP's opnion that disliking things in the females=sexist) don't make either right.

See, to me, females from anime and manga are much more shafted in personality, etc then in a lot of other mediums. Very few are completely sexual equal, but anime and manga is much less so. My phrasing got choppy as I was trying to use exceptional from your post an...eh. It failed.

As for shonen? Because I don't think something aimed at 13 year old boys is necessarily where to look for the sexual revolution? As long as it's not teaching them that girls are all sex kitten house wives...She was picking Naruto out as being particularly sexist. It has it's issues but I don't think it's particularly more or less (In fact I think slightly less) then it's....peers so to speak.