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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-09 07:05 pm

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Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[personal profile] ketita 2017-01-10 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
No. You do not have any more power over your environment than you had previously just because you feel beautiful.
You can say that it boosts your confidence, and thus allows you to do things you might not have dared to do otherwise, and some of those things may lead to you having more power than you did previously. I'm not saying there's something wrong with a woman dressing a certain way if it makes her feel more confident.
But I don't think it is empowering.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

(Anonymous) 2017-01-10 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but just because YOU don't feel empowered by having confidence, when one of the ACTUAL definitions is:

- make (someone) stronger and more confident, especially in controlling their life and claiming their rights.

Then... I'm pretty sure saying 'gaining confidence by feeling beautiful (or strong, or smart) is literally empowering...
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Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[personal profile] ketita 2017-01-10 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
The important part is the second half, though. Wearing heels does nothing. If you wear heels and then become President, the empowerment is the President part, not the heels part.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

(Anonymous) 2017-01-10 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
But you're saying gaining confidence from something (heels, learning a new language, feeling beautiful regardless of why) is in no way empowering, but if wearing heels gives you the confidence to speak up at meetings, or apply for a new job, or run for POTUS, then is that not empowering?

Even if they don't end up AS the POTUS, I feel like the fact that something gave them that confidence boost to TRY is still empowering regardless of the end result.
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Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-01-10 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
You may not feel empowered by heels but some other people might? Emotional responses to things don't have to have a logical basis to be legitimate.
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Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[personal profile] ketita 2017-01-10 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I'm arguing that a feeling does not necessarily equal empowerment. You can feel "empowered" without actually *being* empowered. I think if more people demanded actual empowerment rather than being satisfied by feeling empowered, we'd all be better off.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

(Anonymous) 2017-01-10 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think if more people demanded actual empowerment rather than being satisfied by feeling empowered, we'd all be better off.

Holy shit, that's so succinctly put, thank you.
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Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-01-10 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think when people talk about empowerment in terms of clothing, etc. they're pretty much exclusively talking about the feeling of being empowered.

Feeling empowered and fighting for tangible empowerment are not mutually exclusive.