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⌈ Secret Post #3659 ⌋

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Comments

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[(Anonymous)]

So you'd believe that something like MK shouldn't be made because... YOU feel it needs more content?

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[ketita]

Did you not read what I actually wrote?

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[(Anonymous)]

You think MK should be censored because it doesn't have 'valuable' or any content beyond flying limbs.

So whether this censorship means fluffy bunnying all those flying limbs or preventing the game from being made, it has the same end. Most people are not going to buy a game who's sole point is to beat up someone else if there's fluffy bunnied violence, which means it won't sell, which kills the game.

Why just not buy the game? I love MK. I grew up on it. I love that I can uppercut a guy and his spine pops out. It's awesome. It's also not the only type of game I like, but the thought that someone can say, "Well I don't think your game has redeeming value." irks me. Doesn't something like that fall under YKINMKATO? You don't like gory games, so... don't play them?

Push for better ratings and those ratings being effective. A kid shouldn't be able to walk into a store and buy a game like that at 8 without parental knowledge of exactly what that game entails, and I'm cool with that. That's not censorship, it's informed purchasing.

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[ketita]

No, I don't think MK "should" be censored. Also I clearly should have not walked into the comment about your pet franchise, because you grew up on it etc etc so it became a discussion about that rather than my point.

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, you could have picked GTA (which I don't give a flip about) and I still don't think it should be censored.

I don't think art should be censored. I don't think nipples are pornography in art. I don't think schools should censor books.

I'm honestly just not sure how censorship rather than open conversation about what might bother one person and not someone else is a beneficial thing?

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[ketita]

Because that conversation isn't necessarily happening. That Japanese guy who made the rape game. Who's talking to him? Is he thinking about what he made? Who is playing that game? Are they thinking critically about what they're playing and why? Doubtful.

I don't think "art" is some magical catch-all that frees you from responsibility or automatically confers some measure of protection. Art is not some magical construct that descended upon us from the gods for us mortals to contemplate. It's a thing people made. Sometimes it's a thing a lot of people made for money.

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[feotakahari]

FWIW, I saw critical discussion about Hatred, and that was pretty much the prototypical "murder simulator."

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[(Anonymous)]

True enough, but at the same time, who am I to judge what people are making for a profit when it's not hurting anyone? I mean as much as anyone likes to yell, "VIDEO GAMES ARE THE REASON PEOPLE ARE VIOLENT!" I'm pretty sure they did studies about how that's not true.

Re: I'm fine with censoring video games for violence

[ketita]

True. At the moment, there is no study that has shown any real effects of video games - the problem is, however, that video games are very, very new. It's impossible to have any long-term research on them, because there is no long-term.
I do generally believe that video games do not "cause violence". However, just like any other type of media, they can transmit certain ideas, make certain ideas more palatable, and provide people with platforms through which they can find reinforcement of these ideas. The question is, what are they encouraging, reinforcing, enabling? Is the effect greater than if people had read a text of the same sort? Are these people reading texts that reinforce the same ideas? We don't know.

Look, it's like those crazy guys who think that manliness is under attack and that women should be chained in the kitchen and that women's "true nature" is to be submissive and all that. Somebody writes something, and it resonates. At a certain point, it reaches critical mass. The Alt-Right also started as some crazies on the internet.

All I'm saying is that at the moment we don't know. We don't know that it's hurting anyone, but we don't know that it's not. Perhaps we can say that it's not immediately hurting anyone. But only now we're starting to see the first real effects of the generation that was raised with internet, and there are some concerning things (and some things that are great and A+ and keep on keeping on).
We just don't know.