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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-16 06:31 pm

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2017-01-17 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. I've seen drunks become horribly violent, puke all over themselves, fall into a fire pit, start sobbing about one thing or another, and throw themselves out a (first story) window.

I've seen pot smokers get really hungry and talk too much. And then sleep.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Lucky. I've had my brother smash a glass door and attack my father. I know the son of a family friend tried to attack his mom with a knife. In both cases, they were potheads with their life seriously gone off-track because of it.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2017-01-17 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Are you sure the pot caused the problems and not that the problems were there and they were self medicating with pot?
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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-01-17 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, that situation happens with alcohol too, where they're self-medicating some other issue.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2017-01-17 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
That situations happens with many things. Hell, playing video games to avoid your problems (to a detrimental degree) is a form of self-medication.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-01-17 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like people who smoke weed tend to be more defensive about it than people who drink. Or at least people defending weed don't give the same benefit of the doubt to alcohol. If a situation like that occurs with weed "well it probably wasn't the weed" but with alcohol the same people blame the alcohol rather than suggesting the alcohol was being used to self-medicate another problem. People seem really invested in saying that weed is completely harmless in comparison to alcohol. Not that I'm trying to say that alcohol doesn't cause a lot of problems. I acknowledge the statistics you posted on the other page and I have recovering alcoholics in my family (though it kind of pisses me off when people make all alcoholics out to be terrible people since in my aunt's case her ex-husband was encouraging the drinking she did due to her depression because it made her easier to deal with and she was the victim in the whole situation, but that's a whole other issue).

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Very sure.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that wasn't the marijuana.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, last time this discussion came up there was one anon who insisted that their brother died of the marijuana at a party. Pretty sure this is the same anon, only now they've toned it down to "marijuana turned my brother into a Reefer Madness character in real life!"

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Nice try, but no. I'm painfully aware of what weed can and can't do. Won't ever kill you outright, but its influence and the accompanying circumstances of the addiction can be pretty fucking devastating.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, if the user has underlying, untreated psychological issues. Otherwise, you're still full of shit.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Of course it wasn't. As long as you believe it.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
How old were they? Because generally pot's pretty safe--unless a particular pot smoker has a genetic predisposition to some mental illnesses, including schizophrenia, in which case smoking weed or using any psychoactive drug may cause problems that most people don't have to worry about.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
In one case, that was exactly the case (schizophrenia, he spent some time in psychiatric care afterwards), in the other case, I think it's a high possibility but there's no way to get him diagnosed. I'm aware that pot in itself isn't necessarily harmful, but it's the effect it can have on the brain and also the accompanying circumstances in case of a serious addiction that are the problem. So even if it's not the majority, saying that it's completely harmless, always, for everyone, that's something I can't agree with.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT--My dad and his grandmother were paranoid schizophrenics (although only dad smoked since his grandma was born in Latvia in 1880-something) and dad did the gamut of different drugs and ended up hearing voices and almost killed a bunch of people, so I shouldn't ever try any. But for most people, pot is less dangerous than alcohol or nicotine (although I know a lifelong pot smoker whose lungs were not happy with him.)

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
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Or unless it's contaminated, which is a not-entirely-insignificant possibility. The trouble with it not being strictly legal for non-medical use (or at all, in some regions) is that it's also not really regulated, so people who grow and distribute it aren't always careful about things like pesticide use, or mold or fungal infestation. All of those can have some pretty fucked up side effects if someone's allergic, sensitive, or just plain unlucky.

Which imo is one of the biggest arguments in favor of fully legalizing it. If it's legal, it can be regulated, and it can be spot checked for compliance.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
As much as I hate the stuff, I actually am in favour of legalisation, Oasis I think it would improve the situation concerning contamination and drug related crime.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
The fuck, autocorrect?