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⌈ Secret Post #3668 ⌋

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Re: Video Game Movies

[(Anonymous)]

Actual video games characters appear in it. It just happens to focus on an entirely original story. And that's exactly what needs to happen for a movie to be good: it needs a story that works with the storytelling format of a film. Existing game stories are structured to accommodate 50 hours of gameplay in between major events, so they will never really work on screen.

Re: Video Game Movies

[(Anonymous)]

Right, and that's why it's not a video game movie. It's a movie about video games.

Re: Video Game Movies

[(Anonymous)]

Change what video game movies could mean, then. Stop doing the same thing and expecting the next one will be good.

Re: Video Game Movies

[ketita]

I'm pretty sure that most people think of "video game movies" as adaptations of video games. Otherwise, it's just a movie about video games, just like a movie about a book is not the same as a movie adapted from a book.

Re: Video Game Movies

[(Anonymous)]

I already addressed that, because I'm heavily leaning toward, "Adaptation doesn't work for video games. We need transformation."

Re: Video Game Movies

[ketita]

I disagree. Just because nobody's managed to do a good adaptation doesn't mean an entire medium isn't adaptable (again, see the Sengoku Basara series and film - it's amazing).
Successful movies about video games may help pave the way to competent adaptations of existing video games; they may not. Some day people will get it right.

Re: Video Game Movies

[(Anonymous)]

An anime series is already quite different from a standalone film (or even a tentpole film) and is much more capable of handling the plot of a game. The SB film came about as a result of the success of the series, and was able to build upon what the series has achieved. But nobody is yet suggesting that we abandon prospects of a feature length film in favor of, say, a Netflix miniseries. So I stand by my belief that a film adaptation is the wrong way to go, unless you choose to go meta, because most game plots aren't compact enough to accommodate the film format without compromising storytelling.

Series adaptation... maybe. Still some issues though.

Re: Video Game Movies

[ketita]

Yeah, but huge "unadaptable" books have been made into film. Some people said Cloud Atlas would be impossible, and though I haven't watched it yet, some of my friends said they thought they did a good job on it.
LOTR is a huge sprawling story, and it got adapted well.
Ultimately, it's just a question of paring down the story and distilling it into something that can be transmitted in a film.
Yes, this demands a LOT of changes. You can't throw in every detail, you have to trim away a lot of the plot and characters. That's where I think they fail - they're so busy trying to be faithful to the source material that they end up with a lousy, messy adaptation.

And some of it is being a competent filmmaker. The FFXV film isn't... well, it didn't HAVE to be bad. But a lot of it is edited like cutscenes rather than film, which is such a mess and I have no idea why they did it. And the end of it devolves into a bunch of incoherent fights. And it suffers from being a setup-for-the-game rather than its own proper work.
idk, I guess I just firmly believe that what's missing is an injection of filmmaking competence.