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Well, I did see one of the interviews with James, but James Marsters is an already well known special guest star, with more, or perhaps the same amount of clout as John Barrowman. And as for interviews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6qIaFh6UP0

Even though James Marsters went onto say that after he told Naioko how to react, John behavior was more professional, how do you know the same would not be true for an actress who is lower on the rung? Yes, we continually see the co stars saying they are comfortable with it and that they are friends. But what would happen if one of them said that they were not?

What would happen if an actress with some past issues were to get a small role on Torchwood, John acts the way he usually does, and the actress isn't comfortable? Could she go to producers, and complain, knowing how easily she can be replaced?

What kind of a president is this setting for other actors? As long as your friends, it is okay to fool around with co stars? If you are homosexual an out of the closet, that gives you carte blanche to sexually harass female co-stars?

Ta for the link!

I could be wrong, but listening to the interview, I don't think Marsters means that Naoko was actually worried by JB's shenanigans. Giving her "self defence lessons" was a way of conveying to Barrowman that he, Marsters, was nervous about the carrying-on on set, and it worked.

I think it's reasonable to worry that JB's shenanigans could adversely affect someone. However, we have no evidence that this has happened. What's more, if he's setting a bad example, so are the other Torchwood cast members - including the straight women!

Good point about the other cast members going along by allowing it an not saying anything. It would be nice if Eve Myles, Naoko Mori, or perhaps Freema, were to speak up and put their jobs and reputations at risk by complaining about his actions. Saying that they are NOT comfortable with him doing some of the things he does, and by NOT letting him get away with them! Yes there is a chance they could lose their job, but if there were some type of controversy about it, do you think the media and the public would side with John Barrowman, or the female who he made feel uncomforable?

Dude... Eve Myles plays with his balls. I don't think she's uncomfortable with his carrying-on in any way. I haven't seen any evidence that anyone is uncomfortable with it. That doesn't mean it could never happen, or that you're wrong to be concerned; but we have no reason to assume that it has happened.

Oh my god? Did you say she plays with his balls? Not doubting your story, but would be interested in knowing your source.

He lets women casually touch him like that, while in a committed relationship? What does his partner think? IMHO to me letting a woman pet ya is cheating...

And this really changes my opinion of Eve Myles if it is true, because if she is openly willing to do that to a gay guy in a committed relationship, why not do with with a straight guy? Wonder if anything interesting would happen if she were on another show. It also makes me wonder what kinds of lengths she would be willing to go to please producers. Is it her ability to act that scored her her role on Torchwood, or something else? What happens to women who aren't willing to do that with co stars?

Is it sad that what goes on behind the scenes of Torchwood, is more interesting than the actual show?

It's in the "Heat" magazine interview, the first page of which is the image in 59. I linked to a scan elsewhere in the comments, but that site has gone down, so here's the relevant extract, taken from www.torchwoodforum.co.uk:

... I flirt with David all the time. He knows and he'll be funny back.

Do you think he likes it?
Of course he likes it! Whether you're straight or gay, everyone likes a flirt.It can be anything from making up jokes....

To incy wincy spider up his leg?
No, I wouldn't do that to him,it's not that kind of relationship.

Eve Myles, my Torchwood co star - I play with her boobs all the time. I call them 'the girls'. Hers are the girls and mine are the boys. I go (mimes putting his face in her chest) 'Ooh the girls are looking good today!' And she'll go (mimes someone tickling his balls) 'And how are the boys'

Frankly, I think your remarks about Eve Myles are prurient, prudish, and unfair. There's a huge difference between flirting with a gay friend, even this physically, and actual sex.

Edited 2008-05-07 04:51 (UTC)

To me I think touching in certain parts is just crossing a certain line, and is beyond flirting, call me prudish, unfair, and old fashioned...

I just think that behaviour on the set of a TV show like could lead to some not so nice consequences...

We all have our own tastes and boundaries, but what I find prudish is the enormous leap from "She tickled his balls" to "That slut must be sleeping with the producer!"

Should not have made that leap, but I just think that allowing that type of behaviour to go on between lead actor, and lead actress and being not so quiet about it, could potentially lead to that type of behaviour at other levels.

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