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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-06 05:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #487 ]


⌈ Secret Post #487 ⌋

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Re: 08 part 2

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-05-08 07:24 am (UTC)(link)

Anyhow, you think Maya should be developed more, and there are some Latin fans who agree, but littlewings04 finds her portrayal sufficiently insulting that she thinks it would be better if Maya were axed and replaced with a new, more realistically drawn, more humanised Latin character. Those are both valid points of view and you have no business characterising our point of view as "immature" because you happen not to agree with it and have failed to present us with any logical arguments against it (because you don't actually know our country or her culture very well).

Furthermore, you can tell us all you like that people are ignoring various aspects of her personality but so far you've failed to point out any specific ones. "Nice" and "well-intentioned" and "good reasons" are the vague kinds of things people say when they can't think of anything really positive to say about someone. You know when you're being set up on a date if you ask if the person is good-looking or intelligent or witty and you're told only that "he's nice" that you're in for a boring evening. Maya's not the kind of character that littlewings04 wants representing her ethnicity. I so do not blame her for this.

I agree with littlewings04 more than you, but it's a moot point in the end because the show will do what it does. Some of the people who wanted Maya to die were being skanks who were irritated that she got in the way of Sylar/Mohinder. I get that. That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people who hate Maya for the very good reason that:

1) she's a poorly-written character with little real personality

and

2) she is a collection of insulting stereotypes about Latin women all rolled into one big burrito of badness that some people don't want to swallow.

I'm glad you like her. But you know, back in the day, I used to be a big fan of this character named Blaise Zabini. Who I thought was this Italian guy from Italy and probably gay or bi and Draco's first love and all this stuff...that was my own projection of what I wanted him to be. When we finally found out what he was like he was a black kid who grew up in England who chased girls all the time. I'm sure you think Maya is a great character. I'm just asking you how much of the character you think of Maya as being is really there in the actual canon and how much of it your subconscious mind has filled in the blanks. There was a huge wank when Blaise Zabini turned out to be black. Why? Because people had an image of him that turned out not to be true and they really loved that image. I always wonder when somebody gets really attached to a character that is full of cliches or mentioned in passing how much of what they see there is what they put there. And there is nothing wrong with that, but you need to own it so that you don't get mad when other people who have different stuff in their heads can't go where you went with that character.

Anyhow, it's late and I'm going to bed.