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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-10 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3691 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3691 ⌋

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[A Series of Unfortunate Events]


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05. [SPOILERS for Blood and Chocolate]



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06. [SPOILERS for Shin Sekai Yori]




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07. [SPOILERS for Star Wars Rebels]
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(Anonymous) 2017-02-11 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I got the former from it but not so much the latter.

It bugged me to no end, and when I see people heralding Shin Sekai for being progressive it gives me a headache because of it. For all of the characters, the het ships are the ones that are, if anything, painted as their 'true loves' by the narrative.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-11 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't agree, since it seems there are three het "pairs". Saki/Satoru, Saki/Shun, and Maria/Mamour. Saki/Satoru is endgame, but I don't agree they were painted as one another's true loves at all. They have maybe two sexually charged scenes over the course of the series, and both are explained away by other things and they are never indicated to be romantically interested in one another. They are both in love with other people (Satoru, a guy). So while you can certainly criticize it for making a het pairing endgame and disregard the context, it wasn't telling a Saki/Satoru love story. As for Saki/Shun, this pairing didn't actually happen, and it definitely didn't work out, not in the least because Shun also loved Satoru and was dating him. And considering Shun, Saki's "het" love that defines a large part of the narrative, becomes a demon and gets killed, it's certainly not a positive portrayal. Finally, Maria/Mamoru. While the pair is certainly portrayed positively in the sense that it is caring, it's not really a het love that trumps queer love. Maria went with Mamoru because his life was in danger and she is protective of him (tied with the shock at discovering what was secretly going on in their dystopian village, so needing to escape), likewise, Mamoru was said to be in love with Maria because she reminds him of his mother. And then they die, so heterosexuality didn't really work out for them, either.

My point is, there is exactly one het couple that lasts, and it's also the only couple that lasts. And I can't disagree enough that it is painted as their "true loves". Saki, the narrator, spends a large portion of the second half of the series recalling her love for Maria (which drives the drama with the child), and to another extent, Shun (whom Satoru is also in love with). Saki and Satoru come to be the only ones left, and we don't even get to see how or why they chose to be romantic, because it isn't shown on screen, so how could they be painted as one another's "true loves"? I think you're really stripping the show of its context and simplifying it to an endgame heterosexuality and claiming it's an agenda.