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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-21 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #3702 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-02-22 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I should have worded that better, I think. It's not just that Gibson is Catholic - I was actually raised Catholic and would consider myself culturally Catholic in some sense. and obviously as you say no religion is free from some prejudice or violence, being as they are human institutions. It's that he's specifically a very hardline conservative kind of Catholic, and that kind of Catholicism in particular has some overlap with anti-Semitism, especially when you take it as a political ideology as Gibson seems to. And even then, I wouldn't say that it necessarily means that someone is anti-Semitic. But it does mean that, if someone with those views actually goes and says anti-Semitic things, I'm very unlikely to write it off as a mistake or some random drunken mischance or something.

(also - and it's not at all relevant to the point - but Buddhism has definitely been associated with political violence; see the Sri Lankan civil war)
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
This is all true, and in fact - let me be real clear on this one - I am in NO WAY defending Mel Gibson. Good movies do not make up for bad shit, it's why I have never seen Chinatown.

But, - and I'm purely playing devils advocate on this one - there is one other possible element to consider: upbringing. Man isn't just a hardline catholic, he was raised a hard line catholic. The shit those motherfuckers -Heavy religious people, not catholics - put into you when you're a kid, that shit stays with you. You can try and flush it out by knowing it's wrong, you can try and un fuck yourself, but then you get old, your life turns to shit around you, you get a drinking problem... I'm just saying, it's not necessarily him that coming out there.

I don't know if I believe that, but you know, could be.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-22 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, his Jew-hatred can be traced right back to his father Hutton Peter Gibson.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-22 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, wow, that first paragraph on Wikipedia.

I had no idea, but yeah, that'd do it.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-22 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I guess you just have to ask how far that goes. Obviously it's tremendously difficult to tease out all of these factors but I think for a 50-year-old millionaire I just don't know how far it goes.