[ SECRET POST #3706 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3706 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

03. https://abload.de/img/theon-greyjoy-ramsay-6aq1f.png

[(Anonymous)]

You mean the absence of a wedding scene? Or is this a strange kind of troll secret?

And it's "gone," not "went".

[(Anonymous)]

Considering OP's grammar or lack thereof, I'm going with not a troll, just not a lot of reading comprehension.

[(Anonymous)]

So like, Sansa wouldn't be in it?

[(Anonymous)]

Considering that GRRM admitted the rapey Daenaerys/Drogo scene in the pilot was probably more accurate to how it went than his book version (given that GoT is supposed to portray some pretty srs male/female power imbalances) I'mma say this is the same kind of deal.

[(Anonymous)]

wait, this IS Ramsey Bolton's wedding night, right? the one where he forcibly undresses jeyne/fake arya, fingers her and complains she isn't wet for him, and forces theon to "get her ready", effectively raping both characters at the same time? Like, are you trying to suggest that what the show did was somehow taking it *further* than that?

same anon

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I'm on mobile which makes typing tricky. To clarify, I'm describing the book version (the version this secret is harkening to). I really can't see how what happened in the show can be compared to the change that was made with dany and drogo.

[(Anonymous)]

Not that I think they should have gone to those exact lengths, but it would have been nice if they'd made at least a half-assed attempt to portray Ramsey as truly awful and disgustingly evil as he is in the books, instead of changing his appearance and the entire wedding/rape scenario to depict it as naughty and sexualized instead of horrible.

[arcadiaego]

I haven't read the books and I found him incredibly awful with nothing 'naughty' about him raping Sansa at all. I shudder to think what he was like in the books.

[(Anonymous)]

well, if you DIDN'T already view him as truly awful and disgustingly evil by the time his wedding came around on the TV series, you weren't going to be swayed no matter what he did (short of bestiality, i guess.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure I would describe forcible rape of an extremely unwilling woman, while forcing someone who cared about her to watch so that both of them would be humiliated, as "naughty" so much as I would describe it as "horrible and inhumane." Although "sexualized" is accurate, I don't really see how you can avoid sexualizing a scene that, y'know, entirely revolves around sex. And I thought Ramsay was pretty damn awful and evil in show. I'm not sorry they toned him down slightly, because I definitely would not want to watch some of the stuff he got up to in the book, but I'm not sure how anyone could possibly deny that he's depicted as a really horrible person.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there was the fact that they decided to go very young and attractive with the casting, for one. And everything Ramsey does is with this smirking confidence like he's in 50 Shades of Grey. The whole thing seemed like they were thinking "OK yeah he's bad but we gotta make sure it's a little sexualized too."

[(Anonymous)]

Attractive? Yeah, no. His face gives me the creeps.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sorry they toned him down slightly

More like toned him down entirely, they made it so he was not responsible for allll the shit that went down in Winterfell and for some reason removed his serial rapist hobby, gave him a hot evil girlfriend, and made him ridiculously over powered. It's like they were trying to make him a Mary Sue, which is incredibly fucked up. And you can't even argue they did it for the sake of toning down the show because they basically still gave Ramsay's actual character to Burn Gorman's character and reveled in showing highly graphic/fetishistic rape all throughout his scenes.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't read the books.

I didn't watch that scene & think it was naughty & sexualized. I watched that scene & thought of how awful & horrible & disgustingly evil Ramsay is.

[(Anonymous)]

???

[(Anonymous)]

WHUT. Calling that scene "naughty" in the show is... kind of a mild understatement, to say the least.

[ibbity]

Ugh no. It was quite bad enough as it was.