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fandomsecrets2008-05-12 06:13 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-05-12 06:13 pm
[ SECRET POST #493 ]
⌈ Secret Post #493 ⌋
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 14 pages, 332 secrets from Secret Submission Post #071.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: 14
(Anonymous) 2008-05-13 12:15 am (UTC)(link)Not everyone's loathing of Bela has anything to do with not wanting females on the show. It was just a poorly executed character, to put it lightly.
Re: 14 Overly Sensitive Commenter is Overly Sensitive
But enough people have gone off on her, even before the season started and we knew anything about her up to and including what she looked like, that every time there's criticism of her character it sounds like more in the tune of "get rid of the female characters on the show because we think girls are dumb". And Bela's character was flawed in a myriad of ways, true. A lot of the secondary characters' story arcs are flawed in some ways, as so much focus goes into Sam and Dean (and I do like their characters as fleshed out as possible).
But that doesn't negate the fact that this fandom is heavy with misogyny in a lot of ways. I don't understand it, and while I know I'll probably get all uppity about it I would be interested in someone trying to explain it to me. Because I will often hear "Bela sucked due to having a vagina" in place of "I didn't care for her character" because the former so heavily outweighs the latter in this fandom.
Re: 14 Overly Sensitive Commenter is Overly Sensitive
Re: 14 Overly Sensitive Commenter is Overly Sensitive
(Anonymous) 2008-05-13 12:43 am (UTC)(link)From what I've heard, Kripke axed her because he was having trouble relating her to the show, which is the reason I didn't like her to begin with. Once Ruby was revealed as a demon, I FULLY accepted her part in the show, and the fact that she was a recurring character, because she could actually have relevance to Dean's deal, and the demon war, possibly Mary's backstory... the options for her character are limitless. I think a lot of us were just sort of waiting it out as far as seeing what we were gonna get up in arms about.
I also heard from Samantha Ferris (Ellen) herself that she was set to play a part in season 3, the agents/management going so far as to call and check her schedule to see if she was free. So even SHE says she was outed because of the two new happen-to-be-female characters. Now, if the higher ups ARE just looking for more female representation, it would make sense to me that they'd bring Ellen back. It seems to me that the introduction of their characters is to bring more young hot females for some CW demographic. I really don't know...
I think that too many exceptions are being made for Bela by the boys. It DOES NOT MAKE SENSE to me that they would keep giving her chances, when she's already proven that she'll continue to screw them over. And this may reveal my identity, oh noes, because I've said it before... if that character was a man, he'd have been offed a LOOOOONG TIME AGO. In all honesty, I haven't heard any compelling reason given by any fan that would change my mind about the character of Bela.