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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-12 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #493 ]


⌈ Secret Post #493 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 14 pages, 332 secrets from Secret Submission Post #071.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 14

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-05-13 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
God, I could write a paper on my experiences of misogyny in fandom. Last year there was a lecture series on my U about, basically, internet fandoms (with focus on Japan), and one of the professors made a point that fandom provided a uniquely feminist space of women writing for women. I had to put up my hand and object to that, because I've seen way too much BS for it to sit right with me. And the fact that this is women writing for women makes it even sadder.

I started off in the Gundam Wing fandom, and the hatred many of its contributors had for the main female character, Relena, is legendary. To be fair, she was to many an annoying character. But she was vilified and demonized in many fics to the extent that it was completely OOC; Relena-bashing was a genre to itself. The amount of energy spent hating her was almost equal to the amount spent in adoration of one's favorite characters.

Perhaps this is a symptom of needing a character to die for your ship, basically. It's easier to write a non-canon ship if the other character is turned into a monster. We see that happening with characters like Ron in the Harry Potter fandom, so maybe it's not all based in misogyny. But 99% of the time, it happens to women.

There is also the commonly heard accusation of Mary Sue for canon female characters, if they dare display half of the competence of some other male characters like Superman or Jack Sparrow, even when these characters rarely are accused of the same thing. This happened in the Nightlife fandom, where a sweet, teenage psychic was accused of being a Mary Sue. This is the same story which includes a self-made ninja genius and a several-thousand-year old bisexual Puck.

Meanwhile, if a female characters have obvious flaws, like Bela or Jo, they are called bitches or sluts or whores. They just cannot win. After the last episode, I checked out the TWoP forums. Bela was called a bitch 5 times in 20 minutes, and the forum included such comments of, "Well, she was fourteen and obviously not a virgin since Daddy Dearest was fucking her."

I really don't know WHY this happens in so many fandoms. It just completely grosses me out.