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fandomsecrets2008-05-13 05:01 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-05-13 05:01 pm
[ SECRET POST #494 ]
⌈ Secret Post #494 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 250 secrets from Secret Submission Post #071.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
FOUR, FIFTEEN, TWENTY, FORTY-FOUR
15. Definitely been there.
20. Maybe it is irrational, but I feel like where you're coming from is valid, and in the world of the story, Chi's pleasure isn't important, like a lot of things about her. That's why I can't watch the show.
44. I've had something similar happen to me. I know how you feel.
Re:TWENTY
I think a big part of it is that Chi isn't real. She's a computer and her "pleasure" would only be code in her OS that states, "If Hideki does this and Hideki has done this, then Chi should ____" and it would only be "real" pleasure at all in the way Hideki reacts to it.
...Um, that needs elaboration. Chi's smile is programming, but Chi's smile makes Hideki's heart warm, thereby it is causing real effects but those effects are not in Chi, they are in Hideki. Chi's pleasure, likewise, is programming, but it would make Hideki squirm, which is a real feeling.
That's why they spend a whole ton of time on real women being replaced by fake women, because fake women are perfect and easy and result in the same effects in men while real women need... respect and love and dignity. Which is why Shinbo's such an awesome guy for picking a woman not a machine.
And I think Hideki's little 'no vaginal sex' was supposed to be an attempt at redeeming him for choosing a computer over a woman. He won't be able to have traditional sex, which is the bane he chooses over having to... deal with PMS?
Okay, yes, CLAMP could have written this better. I think Ohkawa's point was probably this whole loving unreal but pretty things concept and Mokona Apapa just went crazy making the computers hot and do hot things, because, after all, Miyuki-chan in Wonderland was Mokona with a ton of hot female designs and Ohkawa saying 'Okay, I'll write something we can use them in.'
...X was also Ohkawa saying '[the point is] we're watching to see if Kamui repeats Subaru's mistakes.' and Mokona said '...We want you to watch Fuuma tease Kamui.'
There is a pattern, here.
Re:TWENTY
I can accept it if that was CLAMPs aim, or if they didn't think it that far through, but I haven't been able to get behind the concept.
Re: TWENTY
It's fine if you still can't read the manga or watch the series, too. I don't think you have to or that it's so great you can't miss it. You can miss it.
(I've wanted to hit so many people for saying this manga's depth halted at fanservice. And I'm pretty sure it was the anime that gave them that impression, which is why I couldn't watch the show and wondered if that was your issue, too.)