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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-13 05:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #494 ]


⌈ Secret Post #494 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 250 secrets from Secret Submission Post #071.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
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Re: 20

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh, in that case, I can see THAT being reason for ire, yeah. Though in that case I still think the problem is much bigger than "DOESN'T CHII HAVE A CLITORIS??" (especially since she's... Chii anyway, orz too innocent for touching, what the shit is this XD).

Re: 20

[identity profile] khym-chanur.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, page 91 of TokyoPop volume 8 (highlight for spoilers):



That made me go O_O, then think "What the Hell, CLAMP?!" But I dunno, maybe she's lying as a way to test Hideki?

Re: 20

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I hope that was a test or a really bad translation. (I like how it also doesn't make sense coming from Freya, since, lol, I have no idea wtf is going on there.)

Re: 20

[identity profile] khym-chanur.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, yes, bad translation, that's a rationalization I can cling to.

Re: 20

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
It makes more sense than it being accurate, since it disagrees with 100% of the storyline before and after it. XD; Wtf Clamp.

Re: 20

[identity profile] khym-chanur.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
But isn't CLAMP know for WTF endings?

Re: 20

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
No, she's right. Persocons only can feel "emotion" to the extent of their AI programming, they can't truly experience the complexity and flexibity of human emotions, only a logical procession of what suitable "emotion" for the situation. Chii was built with an AI programming that can somewhat experience human "love" by her choosing the "one person only for me" to be loyal for the rest of her lifespan, no matter what circumstances. She can't fall out of love unless someone resets her. Her "love" would never waver nor change, like humans do. Freya was trying to make Hideki see that before he decided to be Chii's "one person only for me".

Re: 20

[identity profile] khym-chanur.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I would think that "not being able to experience emotions with the same subtlety and complexity of a human" isn't the same as "no emotions". Freya could have said "if you hook up with her there's no going back because she'll love you forever".

Re: 20

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, the difference is because Chii only "loves" because its a command of her program, nothing more. It's more of a simulation than an actual emotion.

Re: 20

[identity profile] wishmasterfuuma.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure they explained around that same place in the manga that the emotions of persocoms are the simulations in their programming.

And then Hideki said Chi's emotions may not be real because she is a computer, but they are real because her simulated smile does something in his human heart.

I think the point there was that something may not be "real" but is still real to us if we choose to acknowledge its affects. A computer's smile can be seen as programming or as a smile and Hideki saw it as a smile, which makes it real to him. ...Make sense? Or am I rambling?