[ SECRET POST #3721 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3721 ⌋

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Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

Going vegan. I watched a shit ton of vegan youtubers and was "inspired" to go vegan. I only lasted a week and a half. Eating super healthy is expensive and I bloated a lot.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

The bloating (depending on what you were eating) would have gone away in time. But yeah, being vegan is expensive. It's the number one reason I stopped. I made it a little over a year and just couldn't afford it anymore. This was years ago, so there are more options now, but still. Being vegetarian is about as much as I can handle.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

Don't worry about. Vegan (as opposed to vegetarian) isn't an especially healthy diet for humans and, as you said, is very expensive to do correctly. Not only that, but it's less ecologically sustainable than most other diets. Eating only farmed meat would be less sustainable, but that's about it. Make the most of your ecological footprint and just stick to regular vegetarianism.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

Just to be "that person", but that's not entirely true. Environmental sustainability of a vegan diet depends, like most diets, on what exactly you're eating.

Cutting meat totally is, generally speaking, extremely sustainable because of how many resources go into raising/transporting/preserving meat.

Veganism would just also include cutting eggs and dairy in addition to meat. There's nothing about that that is suddenly less eco-friendly than a egg-and-milk friendly diet.

Where sustainability factors come in is generally in how much energy and resources are used to transport goods. So if you only eat foods produced across the globe, yeah, it gets a low sustainability score. But it is certainly possible to have most of your diet come from local/regional sources. And even if it doesn't, that doesn't make it less sustainable than the average person's diet, which usually includes globally produced foods.

Whether or not it's healthy depends on the person and what you're eating. Beans and nuts can be perfectly sufficient as a protein alternative for some people, and others might struggle more with it and find they feel better including eggs or the occasional fish, too. There are plenty of people who are very healthy on vegan diets, though.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/earth/going-vegan-isnt-actually-th/

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

Anon above you covered the sustainability fallacy, but to specifically address your comments on nutrition: The nutritional concern with veganism is less to do with how much protein you consume. It's more to do with the essential vitamins and minerals that are either difficult to obtain or simply not available from a plant-only diet. To achieve a truly nutritionally complete diet, a vegan needs to supplement with these vitamins and minerals. Leaving aside the difficulty in choosing appropriate supplements, even if you can ensure that all the supplements are themselves vegan, vitamins and minerals are expensive.

It's not that it isn't possible to be healthy on a vegan diet. It's that it's complicated and expensive to be healthy on a vegan diet, and that the benefits of a vegan diet compared to a traditional vegetarian diet are questionable at best.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

My sister tried that for a while. The main obstacle was that 1) she has no money and 2) she cannot cook to save her life. You kind of need one or the other (or preferably both!) to make veganism/vegetarianism a sustainable and healthy option.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

ugh same. everything is expensive to begin with, and a lot of recipes you find online heavily rely on even more obscure, expensive ingredients. that's what ultimately got me.

also long days at university and no way of picking up food anywhere, since there are no vegan options – so obviously i can bring my own, but very few things remain tempting after 7 hours in a warm backpack.

vegetarianism/focusing on sustainability is serving me much better.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

Insulated lunch bag + reusable ice pack. It's a good idea regardless of whether you're eating vegetarian or omnivore.

Re: Failures

[were_lemur]

Maybe instead of attempting to go 100% vegan all at once, you could ease into it a little at a time. For instance, you could decide that you are going to have "Meatless Mondays" from now on. That would let you get used to cooking vegetarian and vegan foods and build up a repertoire of tried and true veggie recipes.

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

But why?

Re: Failures

[(Anonymous)]

I was already a vegetarian anyways.