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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-01 04:25 pm

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Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Are there any characters who just don't seem like their given age to you? Like, is there a character who looks and acts super mature but is supposed to be only 19? Or a character who looks really young and acts immature but is supposedly 38? Are there any particular cases that really bother you?

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
lol jrpg teenagers saving the world

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I can buy that in this genre, teenagers can magically have the balls to save the world without totally losing their shit. That's fine.

What's not realistic to me is adults trusting them to do the saving-the-world.

The first example that comes to mind is Final Fantasy VIII. The entire game, absolutely every adult loves and respects the shit out of 17-year-old Squall, despite him being a moody little asshole. The moment they handed him command of the fucking battleship school (was it called the Garden or something to that extent?), I burst out laughing. Fuck that shit!

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
hahahaha that's the game i was thinking of

fucking ff8

the even fucking weirder part is that all the teens in that game actually acted their age being sheltered reactive emotional idiots with no perspective whatsoever who reluctantly saved the world and all the adults are like yes sir cmdr 17 year old leonhart who is still pining after his older sister mommy figure how high do we jump

fucking ff8 man

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I know this will apply to like most shounen anime but the first thing that comes to mind is Gundam Wing.

I could not fucking believe Zechs and Noin were only 19. And iirc, Treize, the president dude, was like 24, and he was portrayed as old and worldly. Fucking unbelievable.

The other weird thing is that the kids themselves, the Gundam boys, were 15 - and considering all they did, that did feel unrealistic and all. But they didn't look 15, they looked like, 11. Japanese anime has this really weird habit of making characters in their early-to-mid-teens HALF THE HEIGHT of grown-ups. The pilots, compared to the "adult" characters (cough, the 19-year-old adults) were TINY. Like dude, a 15-year-old boy can be just as tall or even taller than an adult man. But that's an anime stylistic thing in general that annoys me.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of anime tends to age up their characters in behavior, like even if a character doesn't *look* that old (and some of them do) they still tend to be written as if they're older then they are with aspects of immaturity thrown in here and there just to remind us they are young.

This in particular seem to happen a lot in stories where the character is secretly a superhero or goes out on any adventure and you kind of wonder where their parents are when you realize how young they're supposed to be.

Like in Sailor Moon it's hard to believe they start out in middle school, in particular the dialogue between Haruka and Michiru makes them seem like they are in their 30s.
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Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

[personal profile] dancingmouse 2017-04-01 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Mech Pilots. Most of them are like, between the ages of 12 to 18, but they generally look ten years older, or five years younger, depending on which Mech show you happen to be watching.

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Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

[personal profile] skeletal_history 2017-04-01 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
All the kids in ASOIAF. (Well, almost all of them -- IIRC, Tommen and Bran are 7 when the series begins, and yet only Tommen is written like an actual 7-y-o.)

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the kids in the show aging past their character's ages actually helped the story in some ways.
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Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

[personal profile] skeletal_history 2017-04-01 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The adults, too -- for example, I can accept a Ned Stark played by Sean Bean at age 51 much better than the 34-year-old he's supposed to be.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry I'm not providing a specific example, but child characters almost always feel off to me. Like, so many writers seem to have no idea how to write them in a developmentally appropriate way. You'll have kids who are like eight or nine still talking like they're three or four, and you'll have six year olds spout wisdom and just be way too reflective than is realistically likely. Toddlers are always the worst, it feels like so many writers have never once interacted with one - they don't seem to have a sense of realistic speech patterns and grasp of grammar.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly thought the kids in How to Train Your Dragon were supposed to be 12-13ish, not 15+

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Really? I had the exact opposite problem with those "kids" and their late twentysomething/early thirtysomething voices.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but I thought the guy voicing the main guy (hiccup was it?) sounded ridiculously old. No idea how old the actor actually is, but the voice didn't work at all for me.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
IIRC, the voice actors playing the kids were all born between 1980 and 1984, except the one playing Fishlegs, who was a lot younger, and Kristen Wiig, who's in her 40s.

So, yeah... most of them were ridiculously old to be playing teenagers in 2010 and beyond.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT I was talking more about the whole plot stuff, starting school for the first time, everyone being protective of the kids, Astrid and Ruffnut having essentially the same bodytype as Hiccup and Tuffnut when the movie even jokes about the fact all the adult women are... well.. thick and very busty. I just kind of assumed they were meant to be tweens.

The way the characters act and are treated in the Riders of Berk TV show is a lot more along with what I expect fictional teens to be treated, basically as slightly naive adults.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Steven Universe.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
All the characters in Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow, but especially Ender and Bean.

I actually thought Ender's Shadow was a pretty good book (despite the author being a hateful asshole), but every time the character's age would be mentioned it would completely take me out of the story. Early on in Ender's Shadow I just flat out decided that the only way the book was going to work for me is if I mentally altered the ages so that all the kids were at least five or sex years older.

Re: Characters who don't look (or act) their age

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed, I do think Ender's Game is a great book, but I could not remotely buy the children being so young. More than that, I didn't see the point of making them that young, either - I didn't go see the movie, but it sounds like raising the age to teens was really appropriate.