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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-08 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3748 ]


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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems an odd distinction. People talking about rape here are assumed to be talking about fictitious rape unless otherwise specified, I suspect Mr tolls issue was more about who was saying it Rath er than how it was said, but far enough. I can I get the text back so I can make the necessary edits? I'm using my tablet and typing is balls.

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The issue is that what you were doing was fetishizing disabilities. Like, I don't think there's really an argument you can make here. It's like the textbook definition of fetishizing disability. And doing that is bad.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I disagree.

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
DA asks why, especially when someone with an actual disability said they find it offensive.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
He'll, I'm certain I could find someone with a disability who will tell me it's fine. Someone with any issue cannot be allowed to be the arbiter on how that issue can or cannot be talked about, because the we get the "guys for trump" people declaring that you can't call trump a homophobe.

Bu basically people fetish I've EVERYTHING. I have no issues with finding something sex that others do not. Even something taboo. Hell, Especially something taboo. Taboos are the mother and father of fetish. And fetish wants to Fuck its mother and father

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think there's a lot of room for interpretation here. Your thread was about how sexy various disabilities are. Like. It's pretty bald-faced. I don't see the wiggle room. The thread was literally about what disabilities people think are sexy.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
My disagreement is that fetishization is not bad. I not inherently. Like I think if you go up to a lady in a wheelchair and ask to sniff her wheels, you are on the wrong side of the good/bad device, but flapping to Barbara Gordon doing pull ups while strapped into her chair, sure I can buy that that's fetishizing, but I don't feel no guilt, not shame, but I'm hurting no-one. I don't see that it's bad

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I really feel like a lot of this outrage is "because its Waco." And I mean sure, he can be an aasshole, but it's not like there have never been long threads here about how people get turned on by amputations, wheelchairs and disfigurements.

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
People on here have fetishized disabilities before on here and no one was bothered? I know for a fact there are some people on here who are into amputees.

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember that happening. if it happened the same it happened in this example, I'd say that was also bad. But it's pretty hard to overlook or ignore it when it's in the actual title of a thread.

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Pretty sure last time that came up it was also Waco.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I should clarify: people fetish I've EVERYTHING. I have no issues with finding something sex that others do not. Even something taboo. Hell, Especially something taboo. Taboos are the mother and father of fetish
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Re: Serious question?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2017-04-08 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy shit. My issue was that you were FETISHIZING DISABILITY. My issue is what you said. I'm just not surprised that it was you that said it.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Very much obliged. I hate typing in a tablet.

And yeah, I see what you mean. I'll try and be carefull with the edits. I hope this doesn't turn into you having to work double shifts here on my account
Edited 2017-04-08 21:11 (UTC)
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Re: Serious question?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2017-04-08 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Fetishizing disability is gross, whether it's real or fictional.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2017-04-08 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Fetishizing those are gross too! But let's be honest here, if Wako doesn't see the difference either, then he's just fetishizing disability, period, yeah? Which is gross, and he should be gone.

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Re: Serious question?

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You know I'm not trying to be rude by ignoring your other comments, it's just that I know neither of us let stuff go, and typing is a plan in the balls right now, so I'm just trying to spare us both a longer drawn out night than we would otherwis to have.

BUT I don't think it's fair to make assumptions about whether I know or see any difference. Literally everything I fetishize to is fictional. Everything. The only thing sexual in my life that is not fictional is my girlfriend who is either disabled in an obvious way (I doubt even I could fetishize IBS) nor is she an interracial MILF pony being donkey punched.

The majority of my fantasy life is fictional.

Re: Serious question?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right, but that argument's been lost for years. Fandom decided ages ago that YKINMK means that anything that anyone claims as their kink is sacrosanct and any attempt to keep it out of general conversation is omg!Oppression!

Rape, incest, disability fetish, race fetish, skull fucking puppies on kittens' corpses -- embrace it wherever it pops up or forever be labeled a bigot prude.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-08 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"skull fucking puppies on kittens"

That's not, like, a thing is it?

I mean, ew, can you even imagine?

Like, I bet it is a thing, you should totally link me to that so I can see how gross it is.

For the record, no-ones a bigot, Noone thinks dethtoll is a bigot. At least I dont, not for this, anyway. I don't even have a problem with his opinion or him expressing it, and R even him trying to have me "kicked out" of f!s.

I just don't think I need to keep silent about anything, even stupid shit like jacking to a film about a deaf mute, to make someone else comfortable. At least not on the Internet. I I might make some deference to decency at the dinner table, but not on the Internet.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-04-09 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I just don't think I need to keep silent about anything, even stupid shit like jacking to a film about a deaf mute, to make someone else comfortable. At least not on the Internet. I I might make some deference to decency at the dinner table, but not on the Internet.

I know you already don't like me so I'm not sure you'll take me seriously but dude. That's why you're an asshole. Just because some people don't have the decency or decorum to be polite on the internet doesn't mean it's ok. Those people are also assholes.

You're making people really uncomfortable for the sake of not having to bother being a little polite or...something? I'm not sure what specifically you have to gain from this conversation, actually. When an actual disabled person tells you they're not comfortable with you fetishizing their disability, you fucking stop.

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