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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-18 05:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #499 ]


⌈ Secret Post #499 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 445 secrets from Secret Submission Post #072.
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i ees uzing this ikahn irunikally

[identity profile] rotten-fish.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
*to the tune of that song in Super Mario* Bela, Bela, Bela. Bela, Bela, Bela!

16. No, I would never convince anyone to watch SPN. Quite the opposite! But I loved Bela for a number of reasons, and it probably had to do with the fact I was a n00b to SPN until a couple of months ago. I didn't get invested in Sam and Dean and their epic gay love. I zoomed through the earlier seasons, liked what I saw, but found both characters, well, lacking. I loved Dean, but his constant misogyny and coldness towards other characters that weren't Sam was off-putting. Bela I loved pretty much unconditionally, even with the "Don't be such a woman!" comment, which, hey, coming from a woman's mouth is... not cool. Bela was witty and clever, stealing things with ease, and sticking it to Dean and Sam in a very sexy way. She was manipulative, dishonest, and completely all-for-herself, and one classy broad. She was funny. And she could even have a spark of kindness, like with Gert (yes, she was stealing her money, but look at the way she drew her away to get her to sleep off the champagne), or with Sam. She was cynical and dark and twisted and yet she loved life. That expression of glee on her face when she was on top was fucking adorable. There was so, so, so much about her I liked, a whole lot of character packed into a few lines. Man, she introduced a world that could have asshole millionaires pitted against Sam and Dean in their desire for supernatural objects - James Bond villains with potential classist commentary. Do you see that? She was a great character. I know you probably meant it as humor, though, so no biggie. But, dude, I thought she was brilliant.

80. I won't keep watching, myself. Ruby-hate in the finale was too extreme - and after loving Dean from the first season I ended up laughing with delight at his death. Time to go! But that cat was so random, man. It was just THERE. Though it's pretty fucking funny to imagine Bela as some sort of secret cat freak. Does she wear a 'love me, love my cat' nightie, but hides it so far in her closet it's practically in fucking Narnia because it's just too... common? Or did she just have it because the cat was expensive and chique, while she secretly hated it because it pissed on the expensive carpet one time? Fuck, I am such a Bela fan <3

TooBig4: Too right. I really wanted Sam to say something, to stop Dean, to even try to comfort her through the phone, like he's comforted loads of fuck-ups, like the psychic kid who was (hey there!) ABUSED (again, wth, writers) in the second season. Because, hey, she's still a fucking person. She even shot Sam, and he still had some weirdass crush on her for a moment there. WHICH WAS FUCKING ADORABLE. And always confusing in light of the fact that Dean hated her more than Sam did. But, yeah. Dean's last words to her were fucking awful, and completely hypocritical, and I wished like hell she could have said "FUCK YOU, SHITHEAD" and hung up the phone but I'm projecting :3 Talking to him, telling him to basically avenge her when he was saying those things... she was a glutton for punishment, even though that whole day was a reminder of her KILLING HER PARENTS, and fuck, even if she believed then they deserved it, that sort of thing doesn't stop fucking you up. Not their deaths, not being COMPLETELY ALONE when you're just a kid, not "you wouldn't understand - no one did," not having to lie to the man you loathe the most ("they were wonderful people") just to save face and hide your weaknesses... aljaldkjasfd

OKAY I'LL SHUT UP ABOUT BELA NOW <3

34. RHPS made me realize I'm probably completely straight. But it also made me think seriously about the motto - "Don't dream it, be it" - which is a pretty kickass motto even if you're not talking about sex. Oh, and not to care too much about what gets other people off. lol SO MANY MAGICAL LEARNINGS

Re; i ees uzing this ikahn irunikally

[identity profile] goonies-nsd.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
16. Regarding Dean being misogynistic and cold: don't take this as a snotty tone, it opened my eyes, so I thought I'd share.

If you pay close attention, you'd notice that Dean actually DOES have respect for women, and rather likes them. He's only mysogynistic/hornball when the opportunity presents itself, such as in a bar or something similar. He did fall in love with a steady girlfriend and was dumped (twice!) in "Route 666" (which would affect anyone, let's be honest) he came to her rescue even after she distanced herself from him, he seemed to truly like Layla in "Faith" and I have no doubt he'd have stuck around if he could. In "What is and what should never be" he was living with a very smart and caring type of girl. Even in "Dream a Little Dream", his fantasy involved Lisa and Ben, not some orgy of women doing him. In "No Exit", he tells Jo very emphatically that he has trouble fighting with her alongside him because she's an amateur, not because she's female. There are a multitude of episodes that showcase his respect for women.

It's a front, and I think at his core he deeply desires a home and a family and love. Which many of my friends don't want for the character, but it's so obvious.

As for the rest of the reaction, my point is that if a GUY did that, he'd be offed. Do we honestly think Dean would have let some guy get away with shooting Sam!? He'd go into a blind rage! I keep telling people that it's not her being female that got her kicked off, it was what KEPT HER ON SO LONG. ahhaah

80. I think that's an Absynian, which is pretty expensive. It's kinda funny to me seeing the reaction from fans regarding the cat. GET OUT NOW!YOU'RE IN TOO DEEP IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A FICTIONAL CAT! (well, real cat playing fictional cat. lolol!)