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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-18 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #3758 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3758 ⌋

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[I Am Not A Serial Killer]


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(Anonymous) 2017-04-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
My take here is that this is basically true, but that's not necessarily a critical flaw, because it basically works for what Gilmore Girls is doing as a show. That's not to say that we shouldn't be aware of the limitations of what Gilmore Girls is trying to do, or mistake its incredibly fictionalized world for reality, but at the end of the day, I think it's a good show doing good things that I happen to like.

I also think there's a weird dynamic where - because Gilmore Girls doesn't have any elements that immediately set it apart from our everyday reality - we tend to assume that it's attempting to portray our everyday reality, and judge it in those terms, when of course nothing like that is the case. Whereas when you have a more obviously non-realistic show, it gets a lot more leeway for not being realistic. And it's also hard not to notice that this distinction seems to be kind of gendered - if it tends to be the more domestic everyday shows that get dinged for realism, that's also the realm of fiction that's more feminine-coded and more likely to have female characters, as it does in this case.

But, yes, it's certainly true that Rory Gilmore is a one note character.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
This is such a good comment.

I'm about to leave a comment arguing with the notion that Rory is a one-note character, but regardless of that, I really love this comment and strongly agree with most of it.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
On further reflection, I think "one-note" is probably harsh - the family stuff alone adds plenty of dimension to her character. But I think she is a limited character, especially in terms of her desires and motivations.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'm not sure I agree that Rory is a one-note character.

Her social life was fairly well portrayed, her longstanding friendship with Lane was distinctly different in character from her tentatively developed friendships with the girls at school, her romantic desires and self-discovery of said desires was thoroughly depicted as they transitioned through a number of developmental shifts, she had a rich and distinctive relationship with her mother, which differed in tone quite clearly from her relationship(s) with her grandmother and grandfather, She had clear and dimensional feelings about the ups and downs of her mother's romantic endeavors, she was extremely academically focused, she loved to read, she had a budding interest in editorial writing, she was a perfectionist, was sometimes inclined to deny upsetting emotional issues rather than deal with them, was easily stung by failure, loved candy and movie nights, and had a yearning to travel.

I feel like that's more than I could say for a lot of characters out there - even a fair few good ones. If all of this doesn't make her a well-rounded character I'm not really sure what would. Or is "one note" really just code for "Middle class with upper middle class aspirations and almost exclusively first-world problems"?

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-04-19 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
OP probably meant that she was based around her interest and other than that nothing. Strangely that makes sense but in a totally different way - it is something people always praised her for. She dedicated herself to being clever, resourceful, independent, perfectionist and being well-read ... in her head. The scenes from last season where she works for Logan's father and the one where she has the interview for web magazine show that she does is not grand with being questioned or being critical of herself.

But that might be opposite of what OP might have meant. I would say the quoted post is also right in a way - after the wtf that was Paul, she might need a bit of a break on romantic side. Hell, I am convinced that Logan probably just finalised a business marriage and his fiancee did know of Rory (same flat they swapped plus all the calls and all). Plus ending definitely gave her an exit.