[ SECRET POST #3763 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3763 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. It's such a pretty show, but so, so, so stupid. I couldn't stand any of the characters. And the lords of the house being all chummy-chummy with the staff was such a BLATANT LIE. I just don't get how it's so popular, I never made it past the first season and I really tried, plus I have a high tolerance for nonsense in pretty TV shows.

[(Anonymous)]

"such a BLATANT LIE"

Evidence? Apart from "all upper class people back the amused themselves by shooting peasantry and raping servant girls" modern assumptions?

/still has the letter my grandfather's employer sent my grandmother on his death

[sarillia]

My cousin said the same thing. On the one hand, she's a historian. On the other, her area of expertise is the American Revolution. I don't know how much to trust her on other times and places.

[arcadiaego]

There's a space between everyone being bffs and rape and murder. Of course some people in service will have had good experiences, like with any other job. But romanticism the concept of having a servant class in the first place is still not one that will ever sit well with me.

[tree_and_leaf]

Yes, quite. The fact that there were employers who, by the standards of the day, treated their employees with kindness and cared about them, even developed feelings of fondness for them, or had the decent manners to write a letter of condolence to a servant's spouse, doesn't mean that there wasn't a big gap between the classes or that, say, someone's chauffeur would have been made welcome as part of the family.

[(Anonymous)]

(Same person, broke my log in)

It's a bit of a weird example because the film is not very complex (I like it though!) but I was really struck by Maggie Smith's character in The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel simply because we just don't see many people who were in service in England in films unless the focus of the show is on the upper classes. And she definitely had both positive and negative feelings about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, a letter. That surely proves once and for all that the show in no way romanticized the relationship between the lord of the house and his servants, miraculously unaffected by class differences despite the fact that the lord could snap his fingers and toss them out to starve in a ditch on a mere whim.

[(Anonymous)]

Which... actually happened at least once on the show.

[(Anonymous)]

A few of the incidents in the first series, like the guy dying in Mary's bed and his body being smuggled back to his own room were lifted from the history of Highclere Castle, the place where the show was filmed.

[(Anonymous)]

No, not exactly. The show's creator/writer Julian Fellowes claims it's a true story he heard from a friend. Neither the friend nor the house it took place in was named.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/downton-abbey/8819485/Downton-Abbeys-Turkish-diplomat-sex-scandal-is-not-fiction.html