[ SECRET POST #3768 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3768 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The show has the almost-homo and then the no homo is when the characters never mention it or act like it happened. It doesn't have to be "lol they're not gay". "open for interpretation" isn't a victory.

[(Anonymous)]

Characters mention and react to it. Phichit's "congratulations on your marriage!" for example, and the entire restaurant applauding. The Russian lady skater watching Yuri's free skate while Victor was back in Japan and saying something like, "Imagine what it would've been like if Victor was here" with an obvious romantic undertone. Victor kissing Yuri and the audience looking shocked, as well as the audience reacting when Victor and Yuri act erotically before Yuri's Eros performance (several times). The little Japanese skater kid squeeing and blushing when Victor puts chapstick on Yuri.

The characters are always reacting.

[(Anonymous)]

The restaurant scene was a joke, jokes don't count as canon. Otherwise 9 out of 10 series have gay representation.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not necessarily true. It was a funny moment, that doesn't mean it's not the canon deliberately alerting the audience to the possibility of something being the case. In this instance, Phichit thought they had gotten married - they hadn't, so that was funny and Yuri denies it. Victor says it's just an engagement ring and they'll get married after Yuri wins. It could be Victor just fucking with Yuri (?) or just trying to embarrass him, but there's no denial and the scene is played seriously now because the other competitors all intend to win. Then, broken up with JJ saying he's the one who is going to marry his fiancee.

The whole episode is lighter and more comical in general, but that scene wasn't particularly a joke. I don't know if Yuri and Victor actually consider themselves engaged - I personally doubted they explicitly talked about what the rings really, really meant (or didn't mean) - but it seems a little far to say "lol just typical anime gay jokes, nothing actually gay here". It went beyond that.

[(Anonymous)]

The characters are always reacting.

And they do it positively and accepting it as a fact that no one denies.

In fact Yuuri was only worried of being seen as someone who doesn't take the competence seriously after the photo in the restaurant with naked Victor trying to kiss him.

That's more telling than all the twisted interpretations some people have.

[(Anonymous)]

he's not worried about the photo looking gay because in his world gayness doesn't exist. Even if their relationship is canon, we hear Yuri's inner thoughts and his inner thoughts are totally lacking in any romantic language. He buys a wedding ring and says it's a thank you gift.

Maybe it's canon but canon goes out of it's way to allow for plausible deniability and make everything about figure skating, and that leads to a weird disconnect between the apparent plot and the things Yuri actually says and does.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you misinterpreting the whole "prejudice does not exist in this world" that the author said to suit your point or are you just making this up?

[(Anonymous)]

...We do hear Yuri's inner thoughts during that scene, and I think you need to watch it again. His thoughts are more like, "this is perfect, this is a... um, thank you gift, yes!" It is a lot more implied that it's something that resonates really powerfully with Yuri and he really wants to share them with Victor (things that are flat out marked as wedding rings, btw) and then he's trying to backtrack and not sound too presumptuous. Which is normal for Yuri, who clams up easily. The way he says it sounds like a hasty excuse when he really means the opposite. The acting is just as important as the dialogue.