[ SECRET POST #3769 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3769 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dragon Ball franchise]


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03.
(Overwatch, Hanzo Shimada)


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04.
[Undertale]


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[King of Prism/Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live]


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06.
(Rosario Dawson)


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[The Adventure Zone]


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[Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor in Batman vs. Superman]


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[Supernatural]










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Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i.imgur.com/4c9dRTi.jpg
[Supernatural]

[feotakahari]

If you try to build an entire setting around a sexual fetish, it will inevitably be hilarious, horrifying, or a mix of both. The better you do at avoiding one, the more you'll fall into the other. As a writer, my recommendation is to pick one and embrace it.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus Christ guys stop nitpicking the science fictional implications of porn

[feotakahari]

If you don't want people to nitpick the detailed worldbuilding in your porn, then don't put detailed worldbuilding in your porn.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

I haven't read many slave AUs, but it seems to me that most of the world-building is centeted around exploring concepts of morality and humanity, and creating allusions to conditions in the real world, so even with a fic has a lot of world-building, it's not necessarilly meant to be economically realistic.

That said, I still think it's okay to have issues with the economic viability of a fictional slave system, especially if it really throws you out of the story. It's just not necessarilly a huge failure on the part of the author. If the point they were trying to make still holds together (or the porn is still hot), then they've done okay. It's like how Tolkein created a world that makes sense linguistically but not always geologically.

[(Anonymous)]

I love detailed worldbuilding in porn!

[(Anonymous)]

Well, most slave fics are really just about porn, not about what makes economic sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, yeah, that sounds like a really annoying premise. And I'm someone who's usually willing and able to overlook quite a bit.

Like, I've read a couple slave AU type fics in which people exist side bt side with human/animal hybrids who humans keep as slaves/pets. And I mean, that is a weird and not particularly solid premise. But if the fic works for me on other levels I don't really care how solid the basic premise is.

But the idea that beings who can magically heal others are being kept as sex slaves is just SO unfeasible that if I were to read the fic I could never stop thinking about how ridiculous it was. There is not even the slightest veneer of believability there.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, on one hand I would expect a sex!slave fic to be just about the porn and the setup would be incidental so I could ignore the worldbuilding flaws. Sometimes I wish I could just write an AU without getting bogged down in details that no one but me is going to care about and just get to the good stuff.

On the other hand, I've seen so many other AUs with amazing premises that just waste them. It's all about getting the two characters together (which fine, I'm here for that) but the authors don't milk the drama or interesting interactions the AU could provide. It always feels unsatisfying, and I wish they would've added a few chapters about how the AU works or affects the characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that would bug me. I mean I guess I could see a few people doing it in a 'buy a brand new iPhone just to put it in the blender and videotape it for youtube outrage' kind of way, but you'd think at least a few people would prefer to use that kind of power for something other than wanting to rub their genitals on it.

Then again when I find a sexuniverse where they specifically make all sex slaves pretty women and all male slaves are big hulking laborers or something I always get a little disappointed. Where's the evil lady with her harem of dancing boys?

[(Anonymous)]

Where's the evil lady with her harem of dancing boys?

Lol, I know right?

[tabaqui]

Most slave au's generally fall down in that respect, and I don't blame you for being annoyed. The fun (to me) of fiction is that, while it isn't *actually* real, it *could be* real. Fix-it fic, alternate universes, time-hopping, the future - give me something to let me think it's a plausible scenario, and i'm your girl!

But if the basic premise just falls apart, then i'm pretty much not gonna pay attention.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I agree.

I also find that the longer the fic, the more I expect out of the worldbuilding, porny or not.

[soldatsasha]

I don't find much appealing about slave fic personally and I pretty much only read them when the 'slave' part is only incidental to the plot. But the few I have read I've found the worldbuilding very distracting.

Like, Dragon Age has canonical slavery, I can buy a character getting captured by Tevinter slavers. But, how the fuck are you gonna cram some sort of crazy slave-based caste system into a modern-day MCU fic?

It's like all the problems of a/b/o but WORSE because at least that's built on the assumption that basic biology is different so everyone will be wildly OOC and implausible. But a lot of slave fic expects you to seriously buy into the idea that Captain America is going to pop down to the neighborhood slave market to purchase Bucky fucking Barnes. And I just can't suspend my disbelief that far.

[(Anonymous)]

Sex trafficking in real life is not about big scale economics. It's about the scum of the human race preying on the vulnerable for their own economic benefit.

But that's real life. If you're trying to conflate real life with fic tropes then you're doing it wrong.