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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-04 09:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #3774 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3774 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I think those are good suggestions. But I also think there are fans out there already making those efforts and they only go so far.

I can see how negativity can sour people, but at the same time, I don't know that I agree that fandom should never be critical. That's part of what fandom does, it observes, it critiques. And while I would never support harassing individual fans I do think people have a right to complain if they are frustrated.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but if all the fans who were currently being negative jerks and bullying others shifted over to the promotion side, what would happen? You'd remove the backslide effect where people start hating the ship because of the vocal assholes and you'd have so many more people working towards that goal.

Seriously, as a writer I will tell you I generally only write for rarepair events because the rest of the time I'm lucky to get a kudo or two and forget about comments. But there are rarepair ships I will write for even though I'm not super-invested in the pairing because I know the fans leave multi paragraph comments, put it on rec lists, come back and tell me they've reread it. So these fans, which is for a POC ship by the by, get more so much more content than other ships because they have a dedicated cheerleader base. They are small, but they really love their fandom makers and I've never seen them shit on another ship, ever.

Being critical is one thing, but sometimes you have to remember. WhY dO tHe GiRlZ lIEk ShIpPiNg????1?!?! has been something fans have dealt with from well meaning internet think pieces for 40 years now. Why aren't girls just happy to consume the media and then go on their way? What inspires them to take it beyond that? Why did most men watch Star Trek and then go on, but many women sat down at their typewriters and typed up What If and mailed it to all their friends? And there's been hundreds of theories, and because fans are kinda racist is just one more. And it's just as likely to get eyerolled and rejected along with the people speculating that maybe Freud was onto something about the whole longing for a penis thing, no matter how true it may be.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You're assuming people who are critical don't promote though, people can do both of those things at the same time.

I just don't know that I agree that people are wrong for bringing up the subject or that it deserves an eyeroll, no matter how long and how often these things have been brought up, there's always someone new it can reach. And yes, racism is a problem and fandom doesn't get to act like it's the exception to society in that.